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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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AMS tests the New Forced Performance HTA37R!

With all the HTA talk as of late we had Rob and the guys over at Forced Performance send us an HTA37R over to test out on our Dyno. As with Every test we do here we kept it as scientific as possible.

First here are some details about the test mule. Our customer Dave Bruzewski's Black EVO VIII with all the fixins.

AMS 37R/HTA37R Turbo kit
AMS VSR Twin Rail Intake manifold
AMS Race FMIC
AMS 2.3 Stroker motor
AMS Race head
Jun 272/272 cams
AMS Catback with test pipe
Two sets of 880cc injectors
and so on and so on hahaha


Lets just say this is one bad *** car.

The test was done here in house on our Dynojet 424X Dyno

Boost on both turbos was set to peak at 42 psi and by redline would fall to about 38.5

Fuel was VP's new Q16 blend

AFR's were set at about 11.8:1

This is a back to back look at the turbos. You can see the HTA spools about the same but between 6000 and 8000 RPM it does pick up a little bit of HP and torque. Not as much of a gain as we would have expect based on HTA35R and HTA30R testing but still a gain none the less.

Have a look for yourself

Red line = HTA37R
Blue Line = AMS 37R




Summary: If you currently have an AMS 37R I don't know if the labor and cost would offset the gains from the HTA37R turbo but if you are in the market for an upgrade from say a smaller turbo like a GT30R, GT35R, Green etc... the HTA37R spools the same as the standard 37R and makes more power. It would be a great option.

Eric
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:19 AM
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It actually looks like your test HTA spooled a 100-200 rpms later, but more power on top. How could that be? How was the boost between the two? I know you said the peak boost was the same, but did they show same boost throughout the pull?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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Looks like the same spool up to me!

Great test AMS!!
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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It actually looks like your test HTA spooled a 100-200 rpms later, but more power on top. How could that be?

I don't know where you are seeing that. If you follow the graph from start to peak torque they almost mirror each other....maybe 50-100 rpm if that...but honestly its almost identical.

Eric
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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^ Are you serious? The normal 37R spooled up slightly better. This message was for DONE, not you Eric.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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Curious if Martin will be chiming in with his thoughts of how the turbo fares against the current 37R.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:24 AM
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it made higher hp on top??!!?!?!


how..

with the 35R and HTA35R the only difference was spool
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:25 AM
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that 702whp to 719whp bothers me...
cause I am looking to max out the 37R I have now
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:26 AM
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Yea were there any significant changes in fueling/timing anywhere?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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The difference in spool up may be considered negligible but regardless, I would have hoped for some better low end results.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:27 AM
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They mirror on spool up to 4800, then the torque of the original 37R continues to increase and appears to peak slightly sooner. The new HTA torque curve 'softens' just a bit BEFORE the original. This is what I'm seeing. It is totally opposite of what I would have expected to see on the HTA, considering that the 35HTA characteristics were opposite of this. This is close, I know, but I just thought the HTA would show a higher torque curve and sooner instead of 180 degrees to that.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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lol
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AutoMotoSports
I don't know where you are seeing that. If you follow the graph from start to peak torque they almost mirror each other....maybe 50-100 rpm if that...but honestly its almost identical.

Eric
I think 9sec9 was referring to the area from 5-6k, where the HTA is behind the normal 37r. But, I think that can be contributed to boost control at that point in time. That's why he was asking about boost plots for both runs.

Edit: He beat me to it...posted while I was making this post.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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These are dissapointing results......

HTA= Hyped Turbo Application?
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Boltz.
These are dissapointing results......

HTA= Hyped Turbo Application?
+1. did you get your kit yet?
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