props to al!!! JOB well done!!!!

 

It's always a great feeling when your diagnosis turns out to be 100% correct - nice work

Marshall

 

Ok Tristan came today to dyno the car - (he is a dedicated Evo owner)!

We changed his ebc to a Forge Unos MBC and installed a fresh set of spark plugs and here is hiw new dyno sheet

(up 20 TQ and 30 whp) with the new (used) turbo



Al

 

Very good.

Modifying cars is a process, and it doesn't always involve instant gratification.

Some forget this and the less experienced cannot appreciate the trials and tribulations involved in getting a used/older car up to par. Sometimes the OEM items need to be brought up to spec before further modification can take place.

Some will always jump to the conclusion that the tuner is at fault when they do not recieve a dyno sheet with the numbers their "boys" told them the vehicle in question should put down.

Incidentally the extent of their "boys" knowledge is usually heresay and some tidbits regurgitated from various internet boards. How many of them actually spend hours per day on the dyno and have the experience necessary to render expert opinion?

How misguided they can be when said vehicle is plagued with mechanical ills and said tuner is seeing the car for the first time and has done no mechanical work on the car. I see this sort of thing on a regular basis, and as the cars get older alot of the "tuning" has become problem diagnosis and diagnosing mechanical problems on these cars.

I take my hat off to the OP for following through with the process that is the intelligent route to take, you are inching closer to your goals.



Sean

 

well done!

 

I think we are on the same page on this subject.

All too often it seems that customers don't want to face the fact that a basic mechanical issue may exist which are becoming more and more common and frequent as Evos grow older and beome very hard used cars.

I have seen some examples where I have identified fundemental issues with customer's set ups only to have them later go to a shady tuner with an "adjustable" dyno who then uses the dyno adjustment feature to find the missing power and show the customer it was the "tunes" fault.

One good thing about having a Dyno Jet dyno is that given that its not adjustable and can not be rasied up and down when the power sucks you have to start taking a long hard look at the car to find out why its not making power.

A tuning session should not be a "RUBBER STAMPING" validation session which serves only to give the customer a dyno sheet which reads "X" Tuning on a dyno serves two main functions -

1 - Diagnose and determine if the car is producing the right amount of power to verify that all mechanical systems are working properly. In other words if the power production is in the normal range this means that the parts are functioning. If the power is low then the set up needs to be troubleshooted.

2 - Map the ecu in a controlled condition to properly tune the car.

I hope this case example can serve as a good example to help the members learn and understand. However, it seems that far more interest is paid when someone comes out with a thread like "Tuner "Z" FTL my car sucks and has no power"

Al

 

Good work AL. exploding turbo's can lead to exploded motors, its good that you got him a better conditioned turbo. That thing was def headed off the deep end.

 

i would like to thank BIG AL for his great work and diagnosis.. i would also like to thank everyone for their patients and mostly my dedicated tuner Al..i had learned many valuable lessons here and would like to express my gratitude.. The car is running great..but the job doesn't stop here.. i would like to see myself with more power and for sure bigger problems.. until then Big Al is da man!