the black evo didnt blew up for sure...it has some issues with police because of illegal street racing !
we will see subi in the next grag race 02/05 may!!

 

McLaren doesn't know who this guy is (Confirmed by calling McLaren).

Just saying. Someone's skirt is getting pulled up.

Give Joe a chance ot get what parts he paid for.

 

Surprise,surprise: does this post looks like I am defending him??

I said that he wont scam Joe cause i live in Greece and i know more than you about Spyros.Spyros is a lot of things but not a scammer. There are a lot of Greek members on EvoM and Spyros wont get the risk this be known in Greece (in case he scames Joe),you see, he has a lot of enemies/haters here too.

 

Fair enough. Perhaps we're not familiar with the Greek (cultural) way of doing business. As you have some insight into this, would be a reasonable explanation for the gross delays, the need for the customer's car, and what seem like questionable photographs/claims? Maybe there's something folks don't understand.

 

Not defending anyone...but I call bull on this one. In large corporations it would take several calls to multiple partner/sales managers to be able to truly tell whether he's affiliated with them or not. Why? Cause one single partner/sales manager won't often deal with the same partners nor fully know who all the partners are. If he was a big partner then yeah most people would know of the company but hes clearly not.

And even so, no real corporation would ever give that info out to some joe schmoe that called up on the phone. And if they did, I hope McLaren is reading this, and fires who ever confirmed/denied that for you since thats the same idiot that would give out corporate secrets over the phone.

 

There is no Greek way of doing business. Business is business, there are rules.If u dont follow them, u r out.....Sorry, but I amnot in position to answer u about the delays or to any other question about Joes deal with ET.

 

i'm hoping all this drama just lights a fire under Spyros' *** to get the parts done and sent to Joe for the US build. Either way, their reputation is pretty screwed on timelines etc., but it'd be nice to see him get his stuff, and be done with this mess.

 

I have nothing to hide mate, I'm from Italy, and I don't know Spyros outside this forum. You can check whatever you want.
I'm trying to mantain a balanced view of the situation.
I think that ET is a small shop. Here in Europe there aren't big shop focused on the tuning-aftermarket like AMS in the USA. And when a small shop with few employes do a lot of things, delay is normality.
Maybe Spyros overstated his partnerships etc. From the very first time I never thought that he is in partnership with McLaren. Partnership means that you develop a product "together with", but when you buy products and receive some t-shirt with them you are a customer.

 

All companies have a directory that gets updated. If he is a contractor, partner, employee.......doesn't matter. If he has a office in the building or a phone in the organization they'd have it listed.

And for the guys who are saying they aren't affiliated. My bad. Hard for me to believe you guys are still defending this dude after all the evidence to the contrary.

 

Verba volant, scripta manent.

 

ostendere me pecuniam.

 

As a public service:

Kinda means, "Spoken words dissipate, written words remain."


"Show me the money."

 

Thanks for the translations! Lol.

 

I figured out the first one. I couldn't figure out Tim's repsonse. Thanks.

 

Reported, cleaned.