I'd still like to see results from a car that is fully finished. Not weak excuses of the tune needs work or running out of fuel. It seems like every car has some sort of issue that is holding it back.

 

Hi, I read this I m so sorry, extreme tuners they never delay Joe parts. When Joe order the parts the plan was stage 2 and 1300hp, the parts was ready in a month. This was on December. Then Joe spoke with ET and they decide in common for the stage 3 for 1700hp and 12000rpms upgrade. ET upgrade the turbo kit for this. And they told him from ET that this kind of expensive tuning the best way to ensure 100% that will be no failures so as not ruin ET reputation and also ET to be responsible to any kind of problem they ask from Joe to ship his car, so the car to be built in house and tune and send it ready for race, as Joe wanted also billet cases and transfer and a methanol setup as well. That was the plan till last week as I know. That’s why ET didn’t send the parts that have already directly to Joe. If the plan was to send the parts to Joe directly will be sent months ago. Please don’t speak with these professionals like this. They will ship these parts that have ready next week to Joe.
ET have sent many parts worldwide and to many world rally official race teams even that are very very expensive parts, if there is even one to didn’t get what he pays 100% as write here.
There are so jealous people and they try to ruin Joes project in order to encourage him.

 

SHipping a car to Greece because of a possible failure in tuning is extremely weak. We have a bunch of cars tuned by people on this site that know what they are doing.

Isn't STM the fastest full interior streetable Evo right now with 8 second passes. I would think them, ER, CBRD would be more then capable of keeping Joe's motor together.

 

wouldnt it be cheaper to fly a tuner to the usa anyway? thats crazy shipping a car to greece for a tune.

 

IMNSHO, if he ships his car to Greece.....it's gone. In this day and age there is little reason to send a car across an ocean for a build/tuning. With the multiple odd-***** jumping into this thread to support ET, it's seeming even more staged.

Something doesn't smell right. Don't ship your car, Joe.

 

But they do world rally car engines and f1 car engines, it must be true they said so. Why can't you guys just trust them?

Reason they need the car is so they can turn the tacho needle forward 90 degrees - that's the only way its going to see 12,000rpm. What a load of BS, it seems endless

 

Let's hope this is just a stage this young man is going through. After all, he wouldn't be the first innovator who either improvised so much that people wanted to kill him - Frank Lloyd Wright - or had zero business sense (Disney, Edison, etc.)

(I miss you, Sasha . . . LoL!)

 

I am sure ET could build the drive line and ship it complete and have it installed by a qualified shop then remote tune the car with live video feed. That would be way more economical. He could also just tune the whole setup on an engine Dyno and ship it tuned. That's how f1 does it. They don't chassis Dyno tune them.

 

They could also install everything in another chassis and remove it and send it tuned.

 

Yeah but I'm pretty sure climate is different in Greece. And a built car is a built car! I'm pretty sure we have capable tuners here in the states. Is there a special afr and timing needed for this setup that only spyros knows? And not hating spyros, just questioning! Cause I did confirm that one turbo does exist and is in the hands of a USA tuner as I type. It has not been tested yet. But tuner says it looks cool and spins good off the car. And bye far one of the coolest looking turbos he ever had. I will keep Evom updated.

 

the only way i would ship the evo to Greece is if they give this guy a huge security deposit he can have while they have his car in case something happens then hes not out the $ or car if something were to happen.

 

Tony?

 

Regardless of set up tuning these days can be done remotely very easy. Obviously this caliber I'm not talking sending calibrations and logs back and forth but tuner having access the the pc while the car is on the dyno Hell look at ShaneT. Probably one of the very few people that remote tunes Motec across the waters and knock off 6-7 sec passes on the normal. Everything from TT big blocks, gas, methanol cars, natural gas cars, world record drag and mile cars etc.. But then again there's very very few people that have the tuning knowledge of mr Shane Tecklenburg

There has to be more to it than "tuning" issues

 

I would think that the tuner could easily fly to the US funded even by the owner in interest. It is much cheaper than sending the car there and possibly having customs issues. I don't think the car is at risk by the shop, but more by the hugely bureaucratic Greek customs (believe me i know first hand... lol)

Hell, they can even arrange a tuning session for other interested parties. I really want to see 520 bhp claimed stock turbo tune in one of the US cars... I have seen that there is a lot of interest on ET's tuning abilities...

We have facilities here that can support a "1700 bhp" EVO setup, which i would assume it should be about 1350-1400 awhp... On the east coast they can use STM's Mustang, the Shop's Dyno Dynamics, CBRD's mustang, etc etc aka load bearing dynos that can really help and support a proper tune...

And of course any kind of part can be found here in a heartbeat if needed assuming that all the special ET parts are here...

 

^^ Prob is the owner has already suggested that and was turned down saying they need the car!!

Crazy talk if you ask me...