60-130 is real world everyday stats. 60 rolls ect. True street car power measurements. Power that can be used in real world uncotrolled conditions. If this Evo even hangs with the ugr, Hefner , switzer , ect big boys than that speaks more than any quarter mile time. Cause believe me there is not one Evo here in the USA that can hang with a ugr, switzer big boys. Not one!!! Plus going for quarter mile times is just asking to brake stuff and 85% of the members that build there cars put allot of money into to the point that when they do brake the down time is extensive because all funds were exhausted in the initial build. +1 for me on the 60-130 times. That's where it's at.

 

Couldnt of said it better

 

... it also takes out of the equation the driver skill and drag chassis setup to understand which vehicle is actually faster....60-130 run.. hold on to the steering wheel, plant your foot.. maybe shift once depending on your mission setup... seems like this method is trying to eliminate all outside factors to compare vehicle to vehicle.

 

If extreme tuners car beats or hangs with those bIg boy cars 60-130 times then they are truly making the power they claim. Cause the co-efficant drag of the Evo sucks! Those super cars are meant for high end speeds. It takes an enormous amount of power to over come drag at those speeds in that amount of time. Especially considering the Awd system of an Evo vs a gallardo ect. Evos are a set constant split of power. A gallardo is more of a rwd car being more than 60% of power is transferred to the rear wheels. For example a c6 z06 with 550rwhp will beat a Evo with 650awhp from a high speed roll. Do to drag and gearing in favor of the z06. This is where super cars shine over our evos. What these guys are doing is awesome with there gearing and powerbands ect.

 

I just noticed this newest part of this thread having to do with 60-130 mph times and I'll say it is very interesting at the least. I can't wait to see these times as I have personally run with a data logger in my car and I know for a fact that I can't keep up with the times that the fastest cars are running. I find it hard to comprehend how Spyros's car can beat the lambos or the gtrs as they have more traction and more awhp than his car does with close to the same weight and they have a huge advantage with the gear boxes they run( think seamless never ending power).

Just for a little comparison some stats on my car-
Evo 2
weight- approx 2925 lbs
awhp dynojet- best so far 1,127 on the dyno have run higher at races.
tires-bridgestone re01r 235-45-17
transmission-ppg dogbox 1-5
rear diff - 3.545 (talon)

I only have a couple of runs with the box in the car, my best run so far was at about 900awhp( have not turned it up yet since installing the box) at the maxton mile(poor track conditions, untreated broken concrete). On this run I was only able to pull 1.1 g's in third gear where as with more power the limit becomes the tires at about 1.35 g's.

60-130 mph= 4.1 sec

100-150 mph=3.67 sec

With a better tire and more power( I can add 300-400 more awhp for a short run like this) I believe I can pull around a 3.8-3.7 sec run, maybe a little faster. I tend to error on the low side. Still not in the leauge with the best out there but not so bad.

Oh and pizzaman-at this speed aerodynamics just starts to have an effect, it's not really a big factor at these low speeds.

Mike Reichen

 

Everyone always compares Spyros work with Mikes car, and I'm glad to see that he has posted here, clearly the cars are all high performance machines built with different purposes.

 

I agree with you mike to a certain extent, I agree it's minimal for the average car but we are talking high hp and really fast acceleration where tenths of a second are being measured. I was just giving an example that an aerodynamic car will need less hp to go a certain speed in a certain amount of time. Also about the Awd systems being a factor in this acceleration process. So it's safe to agree that if they are getting these times that extreme tuners are making the power they claim. Also keep in mind this test car is not stripped down.

 

How would the gear boxes of the lambos and gtrs be an advantage over the setup extreme tuners uses though? (not being a smartass)

Also, you talk about traction, but spyros even says he uses boost by gear and other things to keep traction

 

^ the gearing is setup for a big powerband. Less shifts. (on the gallardo/gtr) look at a gtr or lambo Dyno, power/tq starts way earlier and rides out nice. Our evos that make real big power, start late and then shoots strait up and only lasts 2-3k rpms.

 

but couldnt you just change the gearing in an evo your builiding to compete with their gearing?

 

^ we don't have the displacement to make the low end power needed to take advantage of the gearing. I had a 4:00 final drive in my Evo and it sucked. The Evo has no power out of boost and with the big turbo, there is no power until high in the rpm range. Plus with longer gears your putting more strain/load on the engine.

 

Hi.

Our time is 100% confirmed as the file from vbox is available and 2 cameras inside the car also.
We are not happy with the time so far generaly, but we are with this boost.

We can pass 60-130 (100-200 for us) just with single gear as the engine rpms are too high.

Our gearbox changes are faster or close to gtrs and lambos.
The extra weight of the car help us to add more power vs traction.

Torque helps the car with many changes accelerate. power move the car faster.

Next week we will try to brake 3< sec.
we have also videos of the tests. and pics that the car interior is 100% stock with cdplayer and everything from factory. We dont have inside any gauge or something that shows that the car is tuned. no boost gauge no oil p. no wideband no egt nothing at all. The ecu can manage all the data and "think". Many many parameters and strategies make the car collect data from 4 wheels and road traction. ofcourse lambos and gtrs dont use these kind of electronics as they are not designed for these kind of Hp.

We would like to thanks McLaren working with us. i have to make a special post for this.

 

Mike glad to share ur times with us.
The only way to prove the power we claim are these kind of tests as we dont have dragstrips in Greece. Some people just see our dyno plots and laugh. its time for them to think twice.Its too pity for us spending too much time - money - knowledge to reach to this level and somebody says we dont believe dynos just show us ur 1/4 pass time.
We prepare these kind of turbokits and parts for public making the street evos compete gtrs and lambos. I dont think that any car can beat these evos.
The only way will be to built a lambo or gtr as we know, moving our technology to another platform with better base. (we had tune the first +1000hp gtr in 2009 when nobody had with 2 x gt35 turbos)

Thanks

 

Great work extreme tuners!

 

Im looking forward to seeing this car