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Dec 1, 2009 | 09:21 PM

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Lucas English

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My '04 SSL runs (3400 lbs with me in it)

11.2@122 with 420whp VIII Turbo
10.8@125 with 500whp IX Turbo

I would say the avg driver should be able to run 11.5 with 470-500whp.

Dec 1, 2009 | 09:24 PM

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never mind edit...

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Dec 1, 2009 | 10:36 PM

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I've been poking around looking for info on the turbine wheel and compressor wheel in the black. Are major and minor diameters known for these wheels? Is the turbine wheel same as in the Red and compressor wheel same as in the HTA3582?

Man, there's been some good info coming from the NW contingent lately!

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Dec 1, 2009 | 10:40 PM

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Nice comparison. Good work.

Dec 2, 2009 | 02:44 AM

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Sonuva! You didn't mention changing the cams when I was down there, Aaron!

Anyway we could do this at the Drift Office, or someone's garage on Saturday the 12th, then run on the dyno on the 13th?

Good to see people that are finding this data useful!

Thanks Aaron!

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Dec 2, 2009 | 06:03 AM

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Great comparison!!

Dec 2, 2009 | 06:27 AM

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Am I reading the graph right that the Black tapers from 26 psi at peak, to around 19 psi at redline?

Dec 2, 2009 | 07:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yahu

Sonuva! You didn't mention changing the cams when I was down there, Aaron!

Anyway we could do this at the Drift Office, or someone's garage on Saturday the 12th, then run on the dyno on the 13th?

Good to see people that are finding this data useful!

Thanks Aaron!

order a set of S2's for me as well!! grats on the black!!

Dec 2, 2009 | 07:29 AM

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Great comparison, especially for the 91 octane folk's

can you post the mivec s2 vs m3 cam compare?

Dec 2, 2009 | 07:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by crcain

Am I reading the graph right that the Black tapers from 26 psi at peak, to around 19 psi at redline?

No, it dropped 3 psi on the 27psi setting and 4 psi on the 29psi run.

Great testing Aaron, looks like the Black is for real even down lower in its op. range. Damn, now I have to save up more money..lol Well done sir!

Dec 2, 2009 | 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by warp9

buy the black and sell me the red for cheap max!!!!

Dec 2, 2009 | 08:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by warp9

But according to this graph:

I see for runfile 007, peak boost was 27 psi, and it tapered to 20 psi didn't it? Maybe I don't need how to read dynojet graphs though? Sorry if I'm being thick.

Dec 2, 2009 | 08:45 AM

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Too me that looks like the boost you're seeing at the end of the run is already after he lifted off the gas. I can't say for sure, but the way it nose dives after 7800ish, I'd say he lifted.