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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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Sorry chad I wasn't sure what you were trying to say here. Care to reiterate?
was supposed to be "an" not and, but i dont like editing when I dont have too!

I was simply saying Robert is a smart guy, obviously... and this build is no slouch.... He has a Motec ECU, which is a good indicator in itself the car is a proper build!

i thought they were good numbers too hee he

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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by darwin_evo
How are you guys running 12.7 afr at 26.5 psi on straight pump gas?
Relative to a few variables. I wont speak directly for them but in my experience its about timing. If you can run lean without knock voltage and keep the timing up it keeps EGTs away and balances both sides of the equation.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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Great looking graph Robert. Keep up the great work!

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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Relative to a few variables. I wont speak directly for them but in my experience its about timing. If you can run lean without knock voltage and keep the timing up it keeps EGTs away and balances both sides of the equation.
Thank you for your answer, it seems that you are one of the very few shops who are always willing to give information!

I see what you are saying regarding egt's... but how can you run 12.7 afr on strt pump gas without having knock?? and at 26.5 psi !? and the 14* of timing only makes it worse in terms of knock!


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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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dammm made this on pump wonder what it would do on e85
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Relative to a few variables. I wont speak directly for them but in my experience its about timing. If you can run lean without knock voltage and keep the timing up it keeps EGTs away and balances both sides of the equation.
Aaron. will this turbo fit our goals with my car? it looks like we could go 92 and then some VP for high boost and stay with my current fuel system. what do you think?
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 01:02 PM
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I just call it old school tuning. As far as a simple V8 turbo setup, just like nitrous, where higher boost is achieved sacrificing timing to get the turbo in it's efficiency for the most part. Boost>timing.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Aaron. will this turbo fit our goals with my car? it looks like we could go 92 and then some VP for high boost and stay with my current fuel system. what do you think?
It will make enough power to put you at the bottom edge of the cage on racegas I think.

We did 459 pretty easy with Brett's car on straight pump (same mods as yours) at 27psi so I think 30 plus and racegas should get us where you wanna be. You are trapping 126-127 at 433whp so it would seem promising with less drop off out the top that the car would go faster even at the same power level.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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EDIT: I deleted my own worthless verbal tripe.

Last edited by sparky; Apr 11, 2010 at 10:16 AM.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 07:56 PM
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And Sparky got it. That's why I think my friend Brandon will be messing with my car. 30PSI 37R pumpgas. 600+ and he wants to learn a little about ECUflash so he will be giving us pointers when the turbo comes in.
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
It will make enough power to put you at the bottom edge of the cage on racegas I think.

We did 459 pretty easy with Brett's car on straight pump (same mods as yours) at 27psi so I think 30 plus and racegas should get us where you wanna be. You are trapping 126-127 at 433whp so it would seem promising with less drop off out the top that the car would go faster even at the same power level.
Thats what i like to hear . Spool on this looks very sick. should make a fun street / strip car. well talk on monday when i come up to see ya
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 10:07 AM
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Experts: Is this the kind of low-end torque that tears apart stock rods/bolts?
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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Experts: Is this the kind of low-end torque that tears apart stock rods/bolts?

+1 low end grunt is awesome but has a tendency to make rods exit stage left bahahaha
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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The stress on the rod bolts are from high revs, not so much the low end tq/power. Low end tq/power will snap rods.

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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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the torque generated will result in a compressive failure of the connecting rods.

the tension generted as a result of engine speed will result in a tension failure of the connecting rod fastener.
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