CBRD new BBKB results
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Scott,
I tend to use all different ones.....
this car has a perrin 3 port, and the dip just past peak torque was because I was running the same WGDC maps as the tomei just corrected the spike... I have now tuned that out.. i was trying to keep changes to a minimum,
typically on the 8/9 I used perrin or grimmspeed
evo X i like the pierburg prodrive.
surbaru pierburg
cb
I tend to use all different ones.....
this car has a perrin 3 port, and the dip just past peak torque was because I was running the same WGDC maps as the tomei just corrected the spike... I have now tuned that out.. i was trying to keep changes to a minimum,
typically on the 8/9 I used perrin or grimmspeed
evo X i like the pierburg prodrive.
surbaru pierburg
cb
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Thanks everyone,
more results this week!
I am getting hammered with PM's and emails regarding the turbo, dont worry everyone, we will be able to build 100 of them right away
cheers
cb
more results this week!
I am getting hammered with PM's and emails regarding the turbo, dont worry everyone, we will be able to build 100 of them right away
cheers
cb
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if everyone is waiting on more results, we've shipped two turbos to GST, and one to a private owner that does his own work.. for independent results
more to come!
cb
more to come!
cb
I am one of the lucky test cars for this BBK-B testing that CBRD has been doing recently.
Only change as far as power adding mods was upgrade from BBK Full to BBK B.
Rest of mods are in my sig, car is 06 MR with 41K.
I just picked up the car this evening and so far have been very impressed with the results. If you have been following the threads, my car was the one the posted the first results on (one with the cossie cams), before it ran out of fuel.
I will have to wait for Chad to post up the final dyno chart, but I think it was somewhere around 420whp at 26.5~ psi. In the initial testing it was pushing towards 440-450 at 29psi before running out of injector.
I had a BBK full prior and its previous best (chart is in the BBK dyno results thread) was right about 400whp, and that was a very cool day.
As far as difference from the BBK Full, it's hard to describe but I'll do my best. It is still very responsive (about 185-200 rpm slower spool on average Chad said from the testing on my car) and you can feel the difference, but you almost have to be looking for it. Also when you hit it, it feels like there is noticeably more pull behind it, so even though response isn't quite as quick (and by no means does it feel laggy or slugish) it feels like there is more behind it now, you can def feel the additional power.
Transient response is not quite as quick, the Full was amazing in its response with light and partial throttle manipulation and coming off and on boost, the B is still very good but you can notice a slight difference. Whereas the BBK Full didn't feel bigger than stock, this feels like you moved to a slightly larger turbo.
So I conclusion I am extremely happy with the upgrade, it was the little extra I wanted on top of the BBK Full and I think if that's how you feel as well, this upgrade is perfect. I feel that the small loss in spool and response is a worthwhile sacrifice for the added power this turbo provides. I loved my BBK Full, but I do like the feel of this better. I don't like lag, and responsiveness is right at the top of my priority list for a turbo, but the additional power and pull through redline this gives along with maintaining great spool and response make this a perfect choice for me. (FWIW I hit the rev limiter, 8400rpm or so, for the fist time today. Top of 3rd came faster than I was expecting haha)
Future plans are to go with a built 2.2 and more boost, and I think that paired with this setup would be an almost perfect street setup.
I'll drive it more over the next few days and try and post some follow-up. This is just my take from the 60 mile drive home...
Thank you to the hard work of everyone at CBRD and Blouch and congrats on producing another awesome product!
Only change as far as power adding mods was upgrade from BBK Full to BBK B.
Rest of mods are in my sig, car is 06 MR with 41K.
I just picked up the car this evening and so far have been very impressed with the results. If you have been following the threads, my car was the one the posted the first results on (one with the cossie cams), before it ran out of fuel.
I will have to wait for Chad to post up the final dyno chart, but I think it was somewhere around 420whp at 26.5~ psi. In the initial testing it was pushing towards 440-450 at 29psi before running out of injector.
I had a BBK full prior and its previous best (chart is in the BBK dyno results thread) was right about 400whp, and that was a very cool day.
As far as difference from the BBK Full, it's hard to describe but I'll do my best. It is still very responsive (about 185-200 rpm slower spool on average Chad said from the testing on my car) and you can feel the difference, but you almost have to be looking for it. Also when you hit it, it feels like there is noticeably more pull behind it, so even though response isn't quite as quick (and by no means does it feel laggy or slugish) it feels like there is more behind it now, you can def feel the additional power.
Transient response is not quite as quick, the Full was amazing in its response with light and partial throttle manipulation and coming off and on boost, the B is still very good but you can notice a slight difference. Whereas the BBK Full didn't feel bigger than stock, this feels like you moved to a slightly larger turbo.
So I conclusion I am extremely happy with the upgrade, it was the little extra I wanted on top of the BBK Full and I think if that's how you feel as well, this upgrade is perfect. I feel that the small loss in spool and response is a worthwhile sacrifice for the added power this turbo provides. I loved my BBK Full, but I do like the feel of this better. I don't like lag, and responsiveness is right at the top of my priority list for a turbo, but the additional power and pull through redline this gives along with maintaining great spool and response make this a perfect choice for me. (FWIW I hit the rev limiter, 8400rpm or so, for the fist time today. Top of 3rd came faster than I was expecting haha)
Future plans are to go with a built 2.2 and more boost, and I think that paired with this setup would be an almost perfect street setup.
I'll drive it more over the next few days and try and post some follow-up. This is just my take from the 60 mile drive home...
Thank you to the hard work of everyone at CBRD and Blouch and congrats on producing another awesome product!
Last edited by bwesley82; Jul 22, 2010 at 08:20 PM.
maybe thats me?most likey not.... i hope so because im the only one that hits the track and puts down some impressive numbers beside pat lol not just a dyno queen
I am one of the lucky test cars for this BBK-B testing that CBRD has been doing recently.
Only change as far as power adding mods was upgrade from BBK Full to BBK B.
Rest of mods are in my sig, car is 06 MR with 41K.
I just picked up the car this evening and so far have been very impressed with the results. If you have been following the threads, my car was the one the posted the first results on (one with the cossie cams), before it ran out of fuel.
I will have to wait for Chad to post up the final dyno chart, but I think it was somewhere around 420whp at 26.5~ psi. In the initial testing it was pushing towards 440-450 at 29psi before running out of injector.
I had a BBK full prior and its previous best (chart is in the BBK dyno results thread) was right about 400whp, and that was a very cool day.
As far as difference from the BBK Full, it's hard to describe but I'll do my best. It is still very responsive (about 185-200 rpm slower spool on average Chad said from the testing on my car) and you can feel the difference, but you almost have to be looking for it. Also when you hit it, it feels like there is noticeably more pull behind it, so even though response isn't quite as quick (and by no means does it feel laggy or slugish) it feels like there is more behind it now, you can def feel the additional power.
Transient response is not quite as quick, the Full was amazing in its response with light and partial throttle manipulation and coming off and on boost, the B is still very good but you can notice a slight difference. Whereas the BBK Full didn't feel bigger than stock, this feels like you moved to a slightly larger turbo.
So I conclusion I am extremely happy with the upgrade, it was the little extra I wanted on top of the BBK Full and I think if that's how you feel as well, this upgrade is perfect. I feel that the small loss in spool and response is a worthwhile sacrifice for the added power this turbo provides. I loved my BBK Full, but I do like the feel of this better. I don't like lag, and responsiveness is right at the top of my priority list for a turbo, but the additional power and pull through redline this gives along with maintaining great spool and response make this a perfect choice for me. (FWIW I hit the rev limiter, 8400rpm or so, for the fist time today. Top of 3rd came faster than I was expecting haha)
Future plans are to go with a built 2.2 and more boost, and I think that paired with this setup would be an almost perfect street setup.
I'll drive it more over the next few days and try and post some follow-up. This is just my take from the 60 mile drive home...
Thank you to the hard work of everyone at CBRD and Blouch and congrats on producing another awesome product!
Only change as far as power adding mods was upgrade from BBK Full to BBK B.
Rest of mods are in my sig, car is 06 MR with 41K.
I just picked up the car this evening and so far have been very impressed with the results. If you have been following the threads, my car was the one the posted the first results on (one with the cossie cams), before it ran out of fuel.
I will have to wait for Chad to post up the final dyno chart, but I think it was somewhere around 420whp at 26.5~ psi. In the initial testing it was pushing towards 440-450 at 29psi before running out of injector.
I had a BBK full prior and its previous best (chart is in the BBK dyno results thread) was right about 400whp, and that was a very cool day.
As far as difference from the BBK Full, it's hard to describe but I'll do my best. It is still very responsive (about 185-200 rpm slower spool on average Chad said from the testing on my car) and you can feel the difference, but you almost have to be looking for it. Also when you hit it, it feels like there is noticeably more pull behind it, so even though response isn't quite as quick (and by no means does it feel laggy or slugish) it feels like there is more behind it now, you can def feel the additional power.
Transient response is not quite as quick, the Full was amazing in its response with light and partial throttle manipulation and coming off and on boost, the B is still very good but you can notice a slight difference. Whereas the BBK Full didn't feel bigger than stock, this feels like you moved to a slightly larger turbo.
So I conclusion I am extremely happy with the upgrade, it was the little extra I wanted on top of the BBK Full and I think if that's how you feel as well, this upgrade is perfect. I feel that the small loss in spool and response is a worthwhile sacrifice for the added power this turbo provides. I loved my BBK Full, but I do like the feel of this better. I don't like lag, and responsiveness is right at the top of my priority list for a turbo, but the additional power and pull through redline this gives along with maintaining great spool and response make this a perfect choice for me. (FWIW I hit the rev limiter, 8400rpm or so, for the fist time today. Top of 3rd came faster than I was expecting haha)
Future plans are to go with a built 2.2 and more boost, and I think that paired with this setup would be an almost perfect street setup.
I'll drive it more over the next few days and try and post some follow-up. This is just my take from the 60 mile drive home...
Thank you to the hard work of everyone at CBRD and Blouch and congrats on producing another awesome product!
-Jalal
I am one of the lucky test cars for this BBK-B testing that CBRD has been doing recently.
Only change as far as power adding mods was upgrade from BBK Full to BBK B.
Rest of mods are in my sig, car is 06 MR with 41K.
I just picked up the car this evening and so far have been very impressed with the results. If you have been following the threads, my car was the one the posted the first results on (one with the cossie cams), before it ran out of fuel.
I will have to wait for Chad to post up the final dyno chart, but I think it was somewhere around 420whp at 26.5~ psi. In the initial testing it was pushing towards 440-450 at 29psi before running out of injector.
I had a BBK full prior and its previous best (chart is in the BBK dyno results thread) was right about 400whp, and that was a very cool day.
As far as difference from the BBK Full, it's hard to describe but I'll do my best. It is still very responsive (about 185-200 rpm slower spool on average Chad said from the testing on my car) and you can feel the difference, but you almost have to be looking for it. Also when you hit it, it feels like there is noticeably more pull behind it, so even though response isn't quite as quick (and by no means does it feel laggy or slugish) it feels like there is more behind it now, you can def feel the additional power.
Transient response is not quite as quick, the Full was amazing in its response with light and partial throttle manipulation and coming off and on boost, the B is still very good but you can notice a slight difference. Whereas the BBK Full didn't feel bigger than stock, this feels like you moved to a slightly larger turbo.
So I conclusion I am extremely happy with the upgrade, it was the little extra I wanted on top of the BBK Full and I think if that's how you feel as well, this upgrade is perfect. I feel that the small loss in spool and response is a worthwhile sacrifice for the added power this turbo provides. I loved my BBK Full, but I do like the feel of this better. I don't like lag, and responsiveness is right at the top of my priority list for a turbo, but the additional power and pull through redline this gives along with maintaining great spool and response make this a perfect choice for me. (FWIW I hit the rev limiter, 8400rpm or so, for the fist time today. Top of 3rd came faster than I was expecting haha)
Future plans are to go with a built 2.2 and more boost, and I think that paired with this setup would be an almost perfect street setup.
I'll drive it more over the next few days and try and post some follow-up. This is just my take from the 60 mile drive home...
Thank you to the hard work of everyone at CBRD and Blouch and congrats on producing another awesome product!
Only change as far as power adding mods was upgrade from BBK Full to BBK B.
Rest of mods are in my sig, car is 06 MR with 41K.
I just picked up the car this evening and so far have been very impressed with the results. If you have been following the threads, my car was the one the posted the first results on (one with the cossie cams), before it ran out of fuel.
I will have to wait for Chad to post up the final dyno chart, but I think it was somewhere around 420whp at 26.5~ psi. In the initial testing it was pushing towards 440-450 at 29psi before running out of injector.
I had a BBK full prior and its previous best (chart is in the BBK dyno results thread) was right about 400whp, and that was a very cool day.
As far as difference from the BBK Full, it's hard to describe but I'll do my best. It is still very responsive (about 185-200 rpm slower spool on average Chad said from the testing on my car) and you can feel the difference, but you almost have to be looking for it. Also when you hit it, it feels like there is noticeably more pull behind it, so even though response isn't quite as quick (and by no means does it feel laggy or slugish) it feels like there is more behind it now, you can def feel the additional power.
Transient response is not quite as quick, the Full was amazing in its response with light and partial throttle manipulation and coming off and on boost, the B is still very good but you can notice a slight difference. Whereas the BBK Full didn't feel bigger than stock, this feels like you moved to a slightly larger turbo.
So I conclusion I am extremely happy with the upgrade, it was the little extra I wanted on top of the BBK Full and I think if that's how you feel as well, this upgrade is perfect. I feel that the small loss in spool and response is a worthwhile sacrifice for the added power this turbo provides. I loved my BBK Full, but I do like the feel of this better. I don't like lag, and responsiveness is right at the top of my priority list for a turbo, but the additional power and pull through redline this gives along with maintaining great spool and response make this a perfect choice for me. (FWIW I hit the rev limiter, 8400rpm or so, for the fist time today. Top of 3rd came faster than I was expecting haha)
Future plans are to go with a built 2.2 and more boost, and I think that paired with this setup would be an almost perfect street setup.
I'll drive it more over the next few days and try and post some follow-up. This is just my take from the 60 mile drive home...
Thank you to the hard work of everyone at CBRD and Blouch and congrats on producing another awesome product!
Last edited by vmrevo9; Jul 22, 2010 at 09:02 PM.