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Old Nov 25, 2010, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
tell me how awesome they are when they start puking oil out of the tailpipe. then when you send it in and get it rebuilt it does it again 1,000 miles later.
Was it b.b or journal b.??
Old Nov 25, 2010, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports
Funny cause this turbo is a Garrett Cartridge hes speaking of.. LOL

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yeah, after he said that i backed down a bit. still wouldnt run a precision if they paid me. op, sorry for crapping all over the thread.
Old Nov 25, 2010, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EVO IXMR
Was it b.b or journal b.??
journal. if you want more info ill gladly share in a pm. i dont want to derail this thread anymore.
Old Nov 25, 2010, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
journal. if you want more info ill gladly share in a pm. i dont want to derail this thread anymore.
Ok that's the problem journal bearings suck..there laggy and don't like lots of boost..
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Big turbo here's a better graph to answer your question asked..

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ts-inside.html

His turbo starts to spool hard at 5,700 rpms..
Old Nov 25, 2010, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
yeah, after he said that i backed down a bit. still wouldnt run a precision if they paid me. op, sorry for crapping all over the thread.

dont worry about it. i would destroy you in a race.
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
do you clearly hear the wastegate opening when its supposed to?

havent listened for it. i have a tial 38mm. ill listen for it next time i drive my car and ill report back.
Old Nov 25, 2010, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bigturboevo80
havent listened for it. i have a tial 38mm. ill listen for it next time i drive my car and ill report back.
one big problem is leaving the seat out when its installed, it leaks like mad and destroys spool. since you have a dump tube, i doubt thats the case. you would hear exhaust coming out of the dump tube at idle.
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is the rpm pickup off on that dyno sheet or were you revving it up to 9,000?
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Originally Posted by n2oiroc
one big problem is leaving the seat out when its installed, it leaks like mad and destroys spool. since you have a dump tube, i doubt thats the case. you would hear exhaust coming out of the dump tube at idle.
Omg you have to be able to hear that gate open when it opens mine is freaking loud it should sound like a vtec pop with nos,,The 38 gate has a higher pitch when it hits that;s my fav.part when the gate opens and also when I let off the throttle I have 3 foot flames shoot out..I know I;m like a big kid..lol.
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something is hurting spool up here is my graph i have a 2.4 but i would not think a 2.4 to 2.0 would effect spool that much maybe a 500 rpm max but not that much i have a ets turbo kit with a fs635 on it full spool by 4700 to 4800 peak torque at 5000

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Old Nov 26, 2010, 03:52 AM
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I've come to the conclusion its the tune. You hit 400 wtq at 4650, im hiting 400 wtq at 6400. Ive even compared my dyno sheet to freddy 302's dyno sheet. At 5650 he produces 450 wtq, at 6750 my tuner produces 440 wtq. At 6100 freddys at 550 whp, at 6750 my tuner produces 550 whp which is absoulutly ridiculous for having a smaller turbo, and parts smaller than freddys setup.

Here is the link to freddy302's dyno sheet im refering too.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...lid-power.html
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Well even with the 'best' tuner in the world your setup will still be laggy. Could you improve spool, maybe....Are there better options for your power goals, probably....

Good luck....
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Should be the tuning ...
Managed to increase power & torque by only adjusting timing ...
Here's my dyno graf ... runfile 17 is my old graf & runfile 12 is my new graf ..

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Originally Posted by bigturboevo80
I've come to the conclusion its the tune. You hit 400 wtq at 4650, im hiting 400 wtq at 6400. Ive even compared my dyno sheet to freddy 302's dyno sheet. At 5650 he produces 450 wtq, at 6750 my tuner produces 440 wtq. At 6100 freddys at 550 whp, at 6750 my tuner produces 550 whp which is absoulutly ridiculous for having a smaller turbo, and parts smaller than freddys setup.

Here is the link to freddy302's dyno sheet im refering too.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...lid-power.html
The graph that was posted above is on a stroker and you have 2.0 liter will sppol different and tq will produce more on a setup like brandons..note this tune he has has been done by one of the best tuners ion the country just for fyi..


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