Ys, I did pick up a stock IX turbo and I changed my mind before the turbo could even make it to my house. Yes, I went with the 84mm anti-surge compressor housing and FP oil feed line.

 

I will take my time in getting the pump gas, 91-octane tune squared away and running strongly as the quality of pump gas is pretty poor here. The turbo will come with the 25PSI waste gate actuator so that will be a good base line level for a tune. I am not going to rush into the E85 tune whatsoever and I have been thinking about getting a content analyzer. There is E85 all over the place between Tucson and Phoenix but I fear that there are significant differences between stations. I will carefully compare the fuel differences with the two stations I use around my house just to be sure. I will ask Tom NOT to extract every ounce of power with either fuel and to keep safety in mind.

 

You have no idea how jealous I am. My dream setup is a Red on the 2.4L.

 

Ok now I'm offically confused about why you even upgraded the car. Why would you build this sweet *** setup and not want what it will handle?

 

You are welcomed to visit Arizona and take it for a drive.

 

It is quite simple, my friend. I have learned from my first EVO that I can still have fun with the EVO knowing that there is still untapped power for safety than trying to have a tune on the edge of a razor. For example, is there really a difference between 375whp/375wtq and 400whp/400wtq on a daily driver? In my opinion, not really.

 

I am sure that Tom will take care of the car accordingly.

 

Map says 650 whp off the ef4. The turbo has way more in it then that although they don't recommend it.

 

Yes there is not much difference in 25 hp I realize that, but the setup you had you would have been happy with 500/500 or 500/450. To me its a no brainer, but its not my car and I'm sorry it bothers me to see you spend all that money with an awsome setup and go with meidoker power at best. I mean you can explain it all you want but I just don't get it

 

I do not see how giving up a turbo that made 500whp for another turbo that will make 500whp with a broader power band mediocre, my friend. This also applies to the quicker torque curve I will experience with the smaller turbo. I know the FP Red can make 550whp but that does not mean I have to shoot for it when I will be just as happy with a safe 525whp. Makes perfect sense to me.

 

Ok then I understand that why upgrade 3k for a 2.4 when you can make good tq off a 2 liter. I mean sure not like on a stroker or 2.4 but come on man. I mean I'm sure Tom could post all the reds he has tuned that made awsome power of what ur looking for even with tq on stock motors.

 

What you are failing to realize is that the 2.4LR pushes my peak torque to the left which is what I need/want. Making 475wtq at 5,000 RPM+ is not the same as making it at levels less than 4,500 RPM, my friend. The sooner you can make peak torque, the funner the drive which is why I spent the $3,000 on the 2.4LR as I know what my power goals are and how I will use my car. I have stuck with that.

 

Curse.....different strokes for different folks. Get off his d about it lol.

 

For one I'm not on his "d" and I am sorry I fail to realize about why he would want more of a powerband starting earlier when he already has extra displacement. So with this said he sold his turbo to go stock then back to a red. Specially when he didn't have enough fuel to begin with. Idk I just dont get it. I am gonna stop following this thread cause it now to me makes completely no since on what he is doing. Specially since he knew what this turbo would have done being he saw how my car was on a stock block. So to me why order the turbo if your gonna think your gonna be unhappy with the way it spools?

 

There is nothing wrong with wanting the greatest power band possible based on my ultimate power goals (500whp+). This is why the 2.4L was purchased as it is the largest that I can purchase. The turbo option is where I made a mistake as I needed at least a 55lph/min turbo to safely achieve my power goals (500whp+). I selected the EF4 but it flows in the 65lph/min+ range which is why I needed more fuel as I could not unlock its full potential as I made 513whp (my ultimate power goals achieved) on single fuel pump and a tune that was not fully finished. Hence my selling the EF4 for NO other reason than it being a beast and beyond my realistic goals. The stock IX turbo was going to serve as a short term thrill until I figured out what turbo I was going to select. Well, I found that turbo before the stock IX turbo arrived. Too easy.