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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Funny Tom tells you that and its done and when you asked me about it you had this huge arguement about what pump to run and thats not the route you wanted to go yadda yadda. Its funny how I treid to tell you the right way to go but yet you didn't listen till Tom basially the same thing I told you months ago. And of top of that you sat and watch my tuning thread for the longest time before you bought your ef4. Now to me for you to go and swap all this out for a red was a waste of time when you saw how laggy my car was on a stock 2 liter you should have just bought the red when you were looking and not have wasted all this time and effort redoing everything 100 ****ing times.
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Funny Tom tells you that and its done and when you asked me about it you had this huge arguement about what pump to run and thats not the route you wanted to go yadda yadda. Its funny how I treid to tell you the right way to go but yet you didn't listen till Tom basially the same thing I told you months ago. And of top of that you sat and watch my tuning thread for the longest time before you bought your ef4. Now to me for you to go and swap all this out for a red was a waste of time when you saw how laggy my car was on a stock 2 liter you should have just bought the red when you were looking and not have wasted all this time and effort redoing everything 100 ****ing times.
At the end of the day, I can spend my money however I want to, my friend. Your opinion is just like every other opinion and I take them in accordingly. Some opinions carry more weight than others and in this case, Tom is my tuner and I trust him with my investment. To be frank, you did not give the technical explanation that Tom did other than "buy a double pumper".

I did not swap "all" out other than a turbo. I did not waste any time as I am still learning more each day. It is all trial and error, my friend. If the FP Red does not cut it, I will change again as like I said, I can spend my money how I want to.
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Levar
At the end of the day, I can spend my money however I want to, my friend. Your opinion is just like every other opinion and I take them in accordingly. Some opinions carry more weight than others and in this case, Tom is my tuner and I trust him with my investment. To be frank, you did not give the technical explanation that Tom did other than "buy a double pumper".

I did not swap "all" out other than a turbo. I did not waste any time as I am still learning more each day. It is all trial and error, my friend. If the FP Red does not cut it, I will change again as like I said, I can spend my money how I want to.
Well put. As someone who has gone through 3 different turbos, I completely understand the situation you are in. It is definitely trial and error since there is no "one size fit all" setup. So we end up making the decision as best as we can with the information that is available at the time but if we don't like the direction that things are going, then there's nothing wrong with changing it.
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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To be frank, you did not give the technical explanation that Tom did other than "buy a double pumper".
Wow really I believe I said you don't have enough injector with that pos Dietchworks and you said it will be enough. How long did that last ya? I am not gonna argue with you about and your right its your money you do what you want. But when you ask someone such as myself for options about your setup and I have been at this game a long time and give you an honest answer, and you go and do something else that my friend pisses me off. Not cause you want to change turbos or whatever thats beyond it. Its your money you do what you want. Just face it your being a pain in the *** about your car. Trust me I know. You have become impatient just to get it running and whatother aspects your going through and its ok to admit you ****ed up. You took nothing I said into consideration other then in any of your build other then the injectors. So whatever man good luck on the build I just don't get what your doing anymore but whatever.
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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Well put. As someone who has gone through 3 different turbos, I completely understand the situation you are in. It is definitely trial and error since there is no "one size fit all" setup. So we end up making the decision as best as we can with the information that is available at the time but if we don't like the direction that things are going, then there's nothing wrong with changing it.
Thanks for understanding my plight. Making the best decision with what we got is the name of the game. Searching for the Holy Grail that may never be discovered.
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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Wow really I believe I said you don't have enough injector with that pos Dietchworks and you said it will be enough. How long did that last ya? I am not gonna argue with you about and your right its your money you do what you want. But when you ask someone such as myself for options about your setup and I have been at this game a long time and give you an honest answer, and you go and do something else that my friend pisses me off. Not cause you want to change turbos or whatever thats beyond it. Its your money you do what you want. Just face it your being a pain in the *** about your car. Trust me I know. You have become impatient just to get it running and whatother aspects your going through and its ok to admit you ****ed up. You took nothing I said into consideration other then in any of your build other then the injectors. So whatever man good luck on the build I just don't get what your doing anymore but whatever.
I have always had plenty of injector, my friend. That was never the issue. Yes, I had the DW300 fuel pump that did not last five minutes before it burned out. Again, not the injectors. I did not mess up at any point in this build at all. I did not control the fuel pump issue. And I did not have any control of the EF4 being too laggy for my intended use. I bought the stock IX turbo for the fun factor for a short period of time. I can easily sell that joker if I elected. Again, costing me nothing overall. I saw the FP Red selling at an awesome price and it was easy to make my mind up considering that it has been tried and true. Who am I being a pain to? There is no money coming out of your pocket. And if Tom wants to tune my car 1,000 times, that is money in his pocket (which will make him smile). I have considered all opinions, feedback, and recommendations to make my decisions. But what I cannot seem to fathom is why such an emotional response when we have communicated repeatedly about EVO stuff. You should just give a big "thumbs up" and wish a fellow EVO brother the best of luck. Stay tuned for the results.
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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I am excited to see the results of the Red! Good luck Bro!
Old Jul 21, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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I am excited to see the results of the Red! Good luck Bro!
I am too, my friend. If things stay on schedule, I could start the 91-octane tune by next weekend.
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 06:28 AM
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I personally wouldn't mess around with pump gas except for a stock boost tune and go right to E85 for power. I only have my pump map to get me around until I get more E85.
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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I personally wouldn't mess around with pump gas except for a stock boost tune and go right to E85 for power. I only have my pump map to get me around until I get more E85.
I totally understand that, my friend. Tom already knows that the 91-octane I have here is terrible and with the 25PSI wastegate actuator, that might be more than enough for the tune. We are going to take our time to ensure that all things are good to go before posting the results based on the "interest" that this thread has gained in recent days. I have already bought the double pumper and it should be delivered next week.

I am also thinking about upgrading the Rev2 I presently have for the Rev3.
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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I am also thinking about upgrading the Rev2 I presently have for the Rev3.
to slow spool and take your powerband to the right?? i thought thats what you were trying to get away from?
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by forc3 f3d
to slow spool and take your powerband to the right?? i thought thats what you were trying to get away from?
and he wonders why people are jumping on his case about his car....

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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by forc3 f3d
to slow spool and take your powerband to the right?? i thought thats what you were trying to get away from?
When I went from stock to rev3, I hardly noticed any loss in spool. Gained from mid range to high end.
Old Jul 22, 2012 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by forc3 f3d
to slow spool and take your powerband to the right?? i thought thats what you were trying to get away from?
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and he wonders why people are jumping on his case about his car....
You fellas have not read the MAP thread where the test conducted revealed there was hardly any delay in spool (~200-300 RPM) and the mid to high power gains were pretty substantial to the stocker and Rev2 respectively. The power band topic that you fellas speak of pertains to me going from a 65+ lbs/min to a turbo in the 58+ lbs/min category.
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no my entire argument about your thread is the lack of planning or research. dude your just throwing money around and tossing out ideas without thinking things through. i know its not my money or setup but trying to help.

why would you spend 650 for the rev 3 when you can buy a skunk mani and have it ported locally for 550. stm has proved that bad boy makes good power.

you could have sent that 9 turbo in to get upgraded and rebuilt from fp instead of buying a used one. although turn around time may have been worth just buying the used one.

as for a prior statement made about a single pump failing, yes its based on your power level. a 400whp single wally will last a lot longer than a 500whp single wally. i wouldn't mess with 91 either. e85 is the best way to go in az, not because 91 is really that bad here but because of the cooling effect e85 has in our heat. i beat on mine whether it's 90 or 115 degrees and NEVER see any knock or have detonation.



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