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Old Jun 14, 2017 | 11:39 PM
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Why is it called 71hta if it has a 68 wheel?
You would have to pose that question to Robert.
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 03:49 AM
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I understand that this is a black ss housing on a stock block. Tappering up the boost is common. My point is, why even run this turbo at such low boost, seems useless and no fun.
I thought you were referring to starting the pull later in the RPM. I was going to say the curve shows starting at 4psi which is the hint its not starting at that rpm and its trimmed off.

Yes for this car it should have a Black or smaller. The car still has a good powerband if you rev to 8500+ but it comes on almost like a 6262.

The car was very fun to tune. Also i shared 3rd gear on a evo 9 5 speed and 3rd is short. 4th gear had a nice 3500~ powerband.

Eventually we are going to build the engine for that car.

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Zephyr is a 79htz compressor, 65lb/min, with a 67.7x62.2mm turbine.
Black is an 82htz compressor, 71lb/min, with a 67.3x58.8mm turbine.
I did not know that. Thanks. I never share my zephyr results because I always thought they didn't perform well, now i know why.

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I have an evo 9 with a Zephyr.
Will be tuned soon by Tom once I finish tuning my personal car.

Ah turbo ****.

Originally Posted by evo8vz
Tom would it be worth getting rid of my FP Black Twin Scroll for a SS Housing FP black?
Absolutely. The SS housings are NIGHT and DAY difference. Its very very easy to achieve 700whp on the fp black in SS housing now.
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Old Jun 15, 2017 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 2006EvoIXer
Why is it called 71hta if it has a 68 wheel?
Marketing.

Originally Posted by tscompusa
I did not know that. Thanks. I never share my zephyr results because I always thought they didn't perform well, now i know why.
Absolutely. The SS housings are NIGHT and DAY difference. Its very very easy to achieve 700whp on the fp black in SS housing now.
Now that you know its between a red and a black, are the results decent? I was wondering why I never saw any results. Share some.
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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 10:41 PM
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what Horsepower should FP zero be getting with pump gas on a built engine?
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 07:57 AM
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what Horsepower should FP zero be getting with pump gas on a built engine?
What kind of pump gas? Central America gets 89 at best. Arizona, California, and Nevada get low quality ACN91, northwest gets 92, other various states gets pretty good quality 93. All are from the pump and give various results
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 05:52 PM
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What kind of pump gas? Central America gets 89 at best. Arizona, California, and Nevada get low quality ACN91, northwest gets 92, other various states gets pretty good quality 93. All are from the pump and give various results
lets say 93
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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 02:10 AM
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on 93 like we get local 500+ whp dynojet easily. with a complete setup close to 600whp.
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Old Jul 2, 2017 | 11:47 PM
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on 93 like we get local 500+ whp dynojet easily. with a complete setup close to 600whp.
I was pushing 2.2bar boost on a 1.5bar spring MVS 38mmfor the fp zero. Got 600whp (DYnojet)

but the wastegate seems to be fluttering to try to hold the boost. is it normal? will changing to a 1.7bar spring eliminate that?

I am using a HKS EVC 6 boost controller.
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Old Jul 3, 2017 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nd_danial
I was pushing 2.2bar boost on a 1.5bar spring MVS 38mmfor the fp zero. Got 600whp (DYnojet)

but the wastegate seems to be fluttering to try to hold the boost. is it normal? will changing to a 1.7bar spring eliminate that?

I am using a HKS EVC 6 boost controller.
I meant 600whp on 93 octane with a full all out setup with all bolt ons required.

fluttering can be from not enough WGDC or vacuum line routing.

22psi spring should let you boost over 32psi, but if its not allowing it then yes swapping to a larger base spring will allow it most likely.

Make sure theres no boost leaks or backpressure issues so you dont overspin the turbo.
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Old Jul 3, 2017 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tscompusa
I meant 600whp on 93 octane with a full all out setup with all bolt ons required.

fluttering can be from not enough WGDC or vacuum line routing.

22psi spring should let you boost over 32psi, but if its not allowing it then yes swapping to a larger base spring will allow it most likely.

Make sure theres no boost leaks or backpressure issues so you dont overspin the turbo.
Yes i understand full setup.

I am running a Tomei 2.3L stroker, tomei 280cams, Twin external fuel pump with surge tanks, 1200cc injectors, Sparktech ignition, AEM Methanol kit Etc ETC ETC..

Will try to swap out with a heavier spring and test it out.
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Old Jul 9, 2017 | 06:53 AM
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Nice numbers
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Old Nov 16, 2017 | 05:44 AM
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Would you recommend a Black if the Op wanted earlier spool?

Sorry OP for my questions going off topic slightly.

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