Comparing the 5 speed EVO trans to the 6 speed MR trans
Originally Posted by oguratevo
My MR 6-speed shifts more smoother and precise compared to my '03 5-speed and the MR 6-speed has a lower final drive ratio.
As far as a durbaility aspect goes, all of the high end cars with these 6 speed MANUAL boxes are usually from someone else ie (Borg Warner, Getrag, Tremec, etc.) I'm thinking Mitsu built the Evo's gearbox themselves instead of outsourcing it (like the did from Getrag on the 3000GT VR-4) so maybe it has the same tough engineering in it from the five speed. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by 05-EVO-GSR
The Six Speed Transmission in the MR is NOT MADE BY MITSUBISHI!
Incidentally, the MR transmission lists for $4708.57. Happy motoring.
Originally Posted by JF1GD2
if youre gonna say that at least tell us who makes it
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Originally Posted by 05-EVO-GSR
I am still trying to find out. The reason Mitsubishi is having a hard time making any more MR's is because they cannot get anymore transmissions. This is straight from the parts rep of MMNA. I think it is either a GETRAG, TREMEC, or BORG WARNER. Mitsubishi does not make a 6 speed yet.
when ours came out it was a 5 speed. the MR is the only way to get the 6 speed here but in Japan you get it no matter which of the 2 you buy.
Originally Posted by andyevo
I read alot of UK car mags, and they all say that the 6 speed is not an improvement over the 5 speed as far as shift quality.
It is better.
I have driven the 6spd MR and I love the MR but the 6gears are just not need over the 5spd. Just another shift witch is not really useful on the street it might be on the track but on the street 5spd it ****.
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best motoring tested both 05 5spd and 05 6spd, and they said 6spd is more refined, smooth and more efficiently transfer power to the ground so I guess 6spd is better... not in every case but in evo, YES 6spd is better....
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counterpoint to the person that said more gears make the car slower because of more shifts required
--car and driver has test driven, and timed both versions of the evo, gsr and mr. they got a 13.6 in the mr and a smashing 12.9 in the mr.
i highly doubt the 5 or 6 hp increase cut all that time off.
--car and driver has test driven, and timed both versions of the evo, gsr and mr. they got a 13.6 in the mr and a smashing 12.9 in the mr.
i highly doubt the 5 or 6 hp increase cut all that time off.
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Originally Posted by 05-EVO-GSR
I am still trying to find out. The reason Mitsubishi is having a hard time making any more MR's is because they cannot get anymore transmissions. This is straight from the parts rep of MMNA. I think it is either a GETRAG, TREMEC, or BORG WARNER. Mitsubishi does not make a 6 speed yet.
for example, an evo gsr says ENGINE: JAPAN, TRANSMISSION: JAPAN...FINAL ASSEMBLY POINT: KURASHIKI, JAPAN
now if we could get an MR owner to tell us what it says under TRANSMISSION, and it says USA, we'd know its either a tremec or borg warner. and if it says germany, obviously a getrag
O.K. I tested an 04 and it was not as smooth shifting as the 05. I bought the 05 w/o testing it and can tell you the 5 shifts a lot better that the 04. I haven't drove the mr yet, but i personally think that the MR is kinda like a grand tourer. where you can drive @ 60 mph in a lower rpm range.if you are looking at putting serious power, for dragging, course racing etc. i probably loook to use a 5 speed. only cause if you break it, it is probably cheaper to fix. also on most road courses, and on quater mile tracks, you usually don't have to shift past 4th gear.
Note: These are my OPINIONS, not hard facts.
Note: These are my OPINIONS, not hard facts.
Originally Posted by BillAce
One of the big reasons I bought the Evo instead of the STi was that the STi had a 6 speed trans. When I went for a test ride in the Suby, I noticed right away how often I had to shift. Having a light to light highway commute made that the more annoying car to drive everyday. I guess some people right away believe that more is better. It's better for economy, but for performance, adding a shift to stay in the torque band means someone just has to learn to drive better so they go into the corner faster.
That sucked big time. By the time the fun started I had to shift up and then shift back down from 5th to 2nd before the tight hair pin at the end of the straights. It was TOTALLY annoying. Plus that UGLY chime kept ringing in my ear 
The MR is a bit better, but still 4th gear maxes out at 105 mph. I drove an RS at ButtonWillow (also tight, but not as tight as Streets) and I DID NOT shift into 5th gear on the straights. The RS maxes out 4th gear at 113 MPH. I am CERTAIN that in an MR I would have to shift into 5th gear. More shifts mean WASTED time, the likelihood of error, and slower lap times.
If the 6-speed box was a sequential box, I would have no problem with it. But for regular amatuer road racing that I DO, give me a 5 speed box anytime.