JF1GD2

FYI, you dont double clutch a car that has synchronizers. that's a trick suited for cars without them, i.e. 60's british sports cars.

i wish i could get all these MT noobs in the room to understand 2 factual concepts that should never be done.

those are:
1. never double clutch a car that has a synchronized transmission like i just said
2. 1st gear is only used for one purpose; for the purpose of moving from a complete stop

Curt@MrLed

iTrader: (107)

does anyone know if the 6 speed can be used if i put another lsd in the transfer case, [ say the one from my 03] to eliminate any wireing hassles of the electronic lsd

bbbwrx

iTrader: (10)

answer to number 1: being a previous owner of a WRX I know how imposible it is for you to get into first unless you are stopped. But when autocrossing I will rev match around a slow corner to get a better time. When you rev match you are making the syncros work less. they have to speed up or slow down the gear less.

BTW I am not a MT n00b

Ben

Curt@MrLed

iTrader: (107)

i want the 6 speed for my 03

JF1GD2

go e-mail subaru.com, or read theor publication DRIVE magazine and theyll tell you the same thing I said in number 1.

it is difficult to do yes, but regardless of what car you drive, even if another downshifts to 1st easily, you never do it!

gtr

iTrader: (6)

Perhaps on a subbie 5-speed. They don't use triple synchronizer for their health.

JF1GD2

...and honda uses cable shifters in their cars

what do you expect on an inexpensive performance car? leather, heated seats and navigation too???

it has single synch on 1st, double on 2-5. you're still missing the point, a manual transmission was never designed to be shifted into first while moving, rolling, or being at anything but a complete stop

you can only budget so much into any car in regards to the synchronizers. hell if you want 6 gears in an evo you have to pay another $3,500-5,000. you can only give so much until you're no longer making a profit.

every car has it's demons, too. EVO's eat up clutches and transfer cases, does that make it a less desirable car? despite that, for $29,000 it's still a great performer and a great value, just like the WRX is a great value for $22,000 (bought mine for 21,800 new)

GPTourer

Yeah, I should have clarified more. I was thinking of a parking situation where you go from reverse to first and perhaps back again. I guess that isn't the same as double clutching, but you usually have to slow down and shift to neutrual, clutch out then in then to first to keep from grinding - especially in a DSM, but in Evos too. But I do occasionally have to double clutch if I coast up to a speed bump in second and want to accelerate away from say 5mph in first - it does take some stress off the synchros.

JF1GD2

So who makes the EVO MR's transmission then? Do we know yet??

Theibault

Why would the number of gears make a difference in strength limits?

MR-SilverEVO8

iTrader: (1)

You gotta get more parts in the same available space.... Thus the parts get smaller, less material, less strenght, more fragile..... Still, the 6 speed tranny in the EVO should be plenty strong enough for the car as it is designed for it.

superz

iTrader: (7)

Yes, this is very true. However the MR 6 speed is not stuffed in the 5 speed case, instead it has its own bigger case which looks bigger from every aangle than the 5 speed , therefore I dont suspect that the gears are any weaker.

evoRS04

No Comparrison The Mr 6 speed Is 100% Better Than The 5 Speed!

evoRS04

If you buy new from the dealer you are looking at $7000 in parts alone.

evoRS04

It may not be noticeable at the track, but it is very noticeable on the way home when you save on gas even at higher speeds.