3rd also. Hey, it looks like someone yanked their dyno plot. What happened???

 

My biuld is 97mm custom crank,1.5mm longer Rods,CP pistons,Stock size Crower Valves,springs,Piper Cams,HKS Inlet Manifold,96lb Injectors, Autronic Ecu,AMS GT35R Turbo kit, RPS Carbon clutch yes Granny can drive it ,
2.4bar Boost on 102ron 636hp 568ftlb, on 97ron 568hp 524ftlb,
Lower comp than standard .

Mark

 

Dunno. Pbase might not like hosting the image. I can see it on my end. Here's the direct URL: http://www.pbase.com/stevelingeman/image/35878501

 

Az3ar I think I have read most of your posts as i have been intrested in turbo upgrades before during and after the release of both ATP and AMS kits.

I have the following hopefully objective observations:

1. To start, your kind of "bucking" the tried and true metheod of building supporting mods first. Regardless of the brand of kit,I think most will argue putting in the 2k of supporting mods should be worth100 hp alone b4 turbo. Your gonna hear **** for this to start. I totally sympathise, Turbo kits and big chunks of power are much more exciting and in some ways cheaper, but like i said you'll get some ****e.

2. ATP was the (first? or one of the first) kits out and they also tried some pretty cool inovations. Both good things but risky business wise as they are now a benchmark target for everyone else in the industry.

3. The only way to build cred and properly rep your skills and the virtues of your kit is to go racing... and spank any haters. If you get spanked, well, then maybe the other guy knows something...

4. And finally, I get what your saying, with a stock evo, 1 install and 2k$ kit your car is now dramatically faster.

 

Sorry trying to post dyno sheets.

 

first off I appoligize it was not 15 lbs it was 16 lbs and here is the dyno sheet SAE. Keep in mind this is stock intake manifold on Pump gas

http://www.automotosports.com/images/GT35RDyno1.jpg
this following one was with STD correction
http://www.automotosports.com/images/GT35RDyno1STD.jpg

I am filtering through the literaly HUNDREDS of dyno plots we have to find one with the 35R on big boost and race gas.

I will get that up for you later today.

Eric

 

about 5 people have qoted me on this...and I should have been more clear on the original post, as my original statement was taken diferenetly than I wanted

I was saying AT THE SAME BOOST LEVEL. Of course you can make 150hp difference going from 15psi to 28psi. I would not have ever dreamed of disputing that. I was saying there's no way your gaining that kind of power from racegas and ingition timing.

 

Here is a link to another dyno sheet w/ our GT35R on a dynoflash.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ght=gt35r+dyno

 

Look im not sticking up for anybody. But i put down over 500whp on a mustang dyno on stock engine with the ATP kit at 29psi according to the AEM and 30 according to the Defi gauges. I now have built the engine from the ground up and with little tuning put down 676whp on the same mustang dyno at 35psi. This is with a redline of only 7500 which will be going up to 9500 since the turbo is still pulling at redline.

All im saying is the ATP kit is able to produce power. Is there a restriction in the exhaust housing YES! Is ATP aware of the problem YES! Is the ATP kit the best bang for the buck HELL YES! So this whole thread is pointless. Everybody is using the same turbos with minor modifications.

Anybody feel up to it i would be more then happy to meet them in the NW region to compare the kits as far as performance. I have no regrets with the ATP kit at all. It served it purpose and more. The thing that really makes ATP stand out is there customer service. You cant ask for better people. I will most likly go to the new GT37 turbo in the future and change the houses at that point but point being nobody even comes close to the performance for the money of the ATP kit.

Chris

Sorry i was all over the place on the post. I had all kinds of stuff going on!

 

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...chmentid=42720

there is link for pruvens 659 hp dyno on our GT35R kit

here is another link to a dyno graph we made on a bone stock motor showing the spool differences between the stock turbo and the GT35R kit. obviously the car has come along way since then but this will give you guys a good idea on the spool differences between a GT35R and the stock turbo.
http://www.automotosports.com/MEDIA/GT2spoolup.JPG


Eric

 

Here is a dynograph of our car on 27 PSI on STOCK MOTOR!!!!!!!!!!

www.automotosports.com/images/551whp.jpg

 

This is cool. Do you have a plot showing the GT35R on a stroker?

 

Not yet Al. We haven't had a chance to get a car in here w/ that combo.

 

I would like to ask AMS if these runs were made on 2 wheel dyno jet or 4 wheel dyno jet?

The difference is more than what some people think in this case. Furthermore, I would like to see a graph from AMS and RNR for their 3071 setup on a stock EVO engine that means no cams, cam gears and IC. This will put all the kits on the market at better view to the customer. Of course the runs must be on ALL wheel drive dyno jet.

Thank you

 

The 3071 graph we do not have access to. And as far as the AWD dyno argument is going to go Yes it was done on a 2wd dyno but we had a customers car come in here and dyno 620 on our Dyno that same car when it was taken to a dynojet awd dyno on SAE correction did 605 Whp to ALL FOUR WHEELS. so if anything the industry standard of an additional 7% loss on an AWD dyno does ring true on our dyno. Every dyno is different. Furthurmore every dyno manufacturer is different Dyno dynamics reads very low. Mustangs can read very high if calibrated Wrong. I think that is why more people run Dyno jets. There is less room for error.

Az3ar, if you want an unbiased view of our kit why dont you call up Vishnu. You obviously stand by them being that they are in your signiture. Give them a call and ask them what they think about the two kits. I think that would be a better judge. Since they are an unbiased Party.

Eric

Eric