Atp And Ams
Originally Posted by ImportUpgrade
I would go HKS kit or Apexi rx6 kit, race proven results and dyno proven. the fastest evos use hks and apexi... thats more than enough to convince me.
Last edited by Derek888; Dec 12, 2004 at 04:04 AM.
Why does it seem that EVERY post reply you make has to do with defending your ATP kit? Give it up. If you like it, fine. If you make good power, thats great, we're all happy for you. BUt please ease up with the praising for ATP. The hard core facts are that everyone knows that the best kit available is made by AMS. Vishnu thinks so, Buschur knows so, and the fastest Evos are witness to this. Sure any company can make a kit that is great for the money, like ATP, but the true efficiency is not number one on ATP's list. It bolts up, but its very much a quick fix, and not the best way to go. If anything I feel that for the money RNR is better. I however feel and can atest to AMS having the best turbo combo out there. Their GT35r is simply the best one out there, barnone. By the way, how old are you? because you seem to be pretty young. 
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Last edited by Speedlimit; Dec 12, 2004 at 03:34 PM.
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From: N Cali
Originally Posted by RnR Racing
Eric, I think we should do that. One of your customers with your GT35R kit and one of our customers with the GT35R kit. Then anyone else that is interested in putting their kit to the test. ATP, Buschur, etc
Then we can POSSIBLY end the debate of which is the best kit.
Then we can POSSIBLY end the debate of which is the best kit.
(Once my standalone is installed and tuned that is)
Originally Posted by superz
Why does it seem that EVERY post reply you make has to do with defending your ATP kit? Give it up. If you like it, fine. If you make good power, thats great, we're all happy for you. BUt please ease up with the praising for ATP. The hard core facts are that everyone knows that the best kit available is made by AMS. Vishnu thinks so, Buschur knows so, and the fastest Evos are witness to this. Sure any company can make a kit that is great for the money, like ATP, but the true efficiency is not number one on ATP's list. It bolts up, but its very much a quick fix, and not the best way to go. If anything I feel that for the money RNR is better. I however feel and can atest to AMS having the best turbo combo out there. Their GT35r is simply the best one out there, barnone. By the way, how old are you? because you seem to be pretty young.
Gil-superz
Gil-superz
eh I am only 25
.. superz, please read my posts and you will realize that AMS is the winner for sure (I have said that). I am not defending ATP kit I am saying the truth. Alex (as you see in the begging of the thread) is spreading lies and rumors based on no facts. I had to chim in because his posts are un-true. I have seen and drove the AMS kit and the ATP so I am writing here from experience unlike Alex.
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From: N Cali
Originally Posted by DSMotorsport
I would SEVERLY dispute that AMS, buschur's, vischnu's kits make 100hp gain going from pumpgas to racegas. I haven't seen any dyno or track proof to support anywhere near that large of a gain. 45-50hp maybe.
I never dynoed on 91, but am predicting about 330-350whp.
On 100oct. the car did 410-420, but on c16 460-473whp.
It seems the bigger the turbo, the bigger the difference in whp going from pump to racegas.
An example of that is Smogrunner's car w/ a 10.5T(relatively small)
It did 303whp-pretty impressive- on 91, but only 333whp on c16.
FYI
Originally Posted by AutoMotoSports
I would be willing to put our turbo kit in a 1/4 mile challenge against any turbo kit out there using a comparable turbo on a comparable car. I am certain the differnce would be higher then most of you think.
other then that.....as was stated earlier....take it to the track!
Eric
other then that.....as was stated earlier....take it to the track!
Eric
I would like to see equally modded cars at stock weight go at it..
hey ams... the 550 hp 3071 number you guys advertise is that to the flywheel or to the ground? and if it's to the ground that is a c16 number yeah? so how much on 110?
is this the ultimate potential of the turbo kit? with maximum supporting mods... or is this right after bolt on.
is this the ultimate potential of the turbo kit? with maximum supporting mods... or is this right after bolt on.
Last edited by trinydex; Dec 12, 2004 at 05:31 PM.
Originally Posted by evotomig
They actually do, esp. going from 91 to c16 on the gt35.
I never dynoed on 91, but am predicting about 330-350whp.
On 100oct. the car did 410-420, but on c16 460-473whp.
It seems the bigger the turbo, the bigger the difference in whp going from pump to racegas.
An example of that is Smogrunner's car w/ a 10.5T(relatively small)
It did 303whp-pretty impressive- on 91, but only 333whp on c16.
FYI
I never dynoed on 91, but am predicting about 330-350whp.
On 100oct. the car did 410-420, but on c16 460-473whp.
It seems the bigger the turbo, the bigger the difference in whp going from pump to racegas.
An example of that is Smogrunner's car w/ a 10.5T(relatively small)
It did 303whp-pretty impressive- on 91, but only 333whp on c16.
FYI
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I have just done a AMS GT35R kit on a 2.227lt engine on 102ron fuel 636hp 568ftlb atf on a engine dyno at 2.4bar boost, Just started driving it on road at 2.500rpm touch the accel peddle .5bar there instant fantastic driveabiltly, just need to bed RPS clutch in so I can start testing it, The RPS carbon drives like a stock clutch even the Wife can drive the car, SO Far I am Very happy with both.
Mark
Mark