Eric, I think we should do that. One of your customers with your GT35R kit and one of our customers with the GT35R kit. Then anyone else that is interested in putting their kit to the test. ATP, Buschur, etc


Then we can POSSIBLY end the debate of which is the best kit.

 

I am sure with such a test the debate is beginning not ending.
Would be very interesting though

 

I agree on that one

 

The trick is going to be getting two cars with the exact same modifications OTHER than the turbo kit. Otherwise your just going to get more people questioning the test rather than convincing.

 

Dont forget the same driver to

 

1) stock turbos break into the 11's

2) stock turbos make an extra 40hp on race gas also.

3) AMS, Buschur's, Vishnu's turbo kits (NON- atp) make about 100 hp more on race gas. ATP = 40, hypothetically, at best.

 

I would also like to see a HKS GT3037S kit included.

 

I would SEVERLY dispute that AMS, buschur's, vischnu's kits make 100hp gain going from pumpgas to racegas. I haven't seen any dyno or track proof to support anywhere near that large of a gain. 45-50hp maybe.

 

I have an Hks 3240 turbo kit on my car. On a 4 wheel dynojet on 91 octane I make about 480whp at 21psi. On C16 I make 590 whp at 29psi. Same conditions, same day.

 

Those are good numbers. Correct me if Im wrong but HKS also use Garett turbos like ATP, AMS but instead they modifiy it internally which also makes it spool faster?

 

Alex Alex you keep posting wrong information proving more and more how low your knowledge is about cars. My brother saw this thread today and could not stop laughing about you he told me why I am even wasting my time replying back to you. I really see my brother point and I know that talking to you is complete waste of time but I don’t see why you keep making numbers up and keep talking $hit. Here is another proof to you.

1- I can count on my fingers the stock turbos (not with the 10.5 hot side) that broke into the 11's , these cars where on the edge of disaster. Running the stock turbo 11 sec is not an easy task at all. It could cost more than buying a turbo kit.

2- Stock turbo makes 40whp extra with race gas with all supporting mods but after market turbos like the 3071, 3076, 3037 will make way more than that. It’s a known fact that big turbos shine with race gas (something you don’t know).

3- Back up what you are saying with dyno numbers and dyno sheets. I am sure that their kits will make 100WHP more with race gas with all supporting mods including cams, cam gears, FMIC and so on but in my case I said 40 because I don’t want to invest money in cams now. I can reach 370 on pump once my AMS intercooler is installed with water injection kit and I can reach the 400s with C16 (note: no cams are installed yet)

I am sorry Alex but when Garret introduced the 3071 they obviously know what they are doing and many customers are loving that turbo. The truth is that this turbo is new and more experience with it is required and so far it has served great.

Alex please come up with good argument before posting. You are boring to answer back too.


oh by the way your funny faces look funny to me

 

That's the basic idea.

 

IE EVO's dyno sheet from Vishnu

330 hp on the DD dyno on 91.

430 hp on the DD dyno on c16.

You can search for it, might still be on here, or you can call up the boys at Vishnu and ask.

 

These numbers were obtained using a Dynojet with a correction factor of 1.25 or more... With elevation of 6200ft or so.

 

Correct. I've run an 11.3 @ 126mph at Bandimere which is at 6000ft. The HKS 3240 can boost to 35+psi at sea level. Up here it's out of its effeciency range after 29-30psi. That is why they use a 1.25 correction factor.

The car right now is getting a fairly radical upgrade done to it. We are attempting to put together a dual charger system. That's a supercharger with a large turbo such as a GT42 or HKS t51r. The design is being done right now and if all goes well the car will be finished by early spring. The cams have also been upgraded to piper racing cams and I've had a custom crank made by Pauter/RNR. The goal is 850+awhp and streetable. Should be intersting.