what does your kit cost? Can you do the 3037?

 

i'm still tryin to convince tony (WR) and bob (35R) to come out to the racetrack up near Dallas...

 

Took the words right out of my mouth. Well said. I'll be jumping on the band-wagon for a WR when I see some results. Please keep me posted when you get your WR in. I'm running a Vishnu flashed ECU, Stage 1+ with 320-330 WHP

 

well, what is the quality of the manifold you get with this "kit" (and what "kit" is this? Water lines? Oil lines? Intake? Lower IC pipe? Who has put any meaningful numbers down? Etc etc

The AMS kit is a tremendous value for what it is....

1. it fits
2. it is impecably made
3. the numbers is has put down are consistent and proven time and time again

 

Hmmm very interested if the hype is indeed correct but what is taking people so long to throw out some results?

 

Sorry, I've read 19 pages of this and been looking for the end. I'm glad i went and skipped ahead to the last page to find out it was so far away.

I'm sorry if it was answered before but I just couldn't read that many more pages. I have work to do. lol

but what would I have to add to my evo to safely run this turbo. I realize sticking it in my care BONE stock wouldn't be a bright idea.

my car is just the way it was from the factory. only mod is a turbo timer.

what would i have to add and what gains could I expect to run this turbo safely?

Btw I'm in houston,tx and there isn't anyone really out here to tune my car so i suppose i wouldn't be able to tune it =\

 

all you need is 680 injectors, walboro 255 fuel pump and some type of Engine management like a flash, S-AFC, piggyback ECU, or standalone ECU to tune it.

Turboback and other supporting mods will help extract more power out of the WR turbo but you don't need it. Some type of boost controller might help too.

 

Heh, that DOES take some getting used to. Believe it or not, what helps that is taking the car out to bigger tracks with longer straights. Although your speeds will be higher, you won't get as frustrated at Watkins Glen if you miss an apex like you will at Lime Rock...although the powder blue Armco guardrail might make it a really long weekend for you.

If you're on the East Coast, shoot me a pm. I'll be making my rounds.

 

The only supporting mod this turbo really needs is bigger injectors. The stockers might be sufficient for a BONE stock evo running this turbo but i'm not certain.

I assume you will be tuning this with a flash, and your best bet would be to get a custom tune. Mark from Turbo Trix just tuned many of us in San Antonio last weekend... I have seen the makings of a possible dynoflash trip to Austin in the the near future, and I am certain Mark shall return sometime early next year. If you run a piggy back then get sgp (houston) to tune your car on their dyno.

-Ben
Houston / Atx

 

I think the AMS kit is very nice and most likely the best one on the market for our cars but I just don't see where the cost comes from?

AMS tubular header-$1200 (seems to be the going rate)
Garrett GT35R-$1380
Tial 38mm wastegate-$210
Slim Fan-$150
02housing/DP-$300 maybe a little more
intake&filter-$150 can be done cheaper
lower IC pipe-$150 can be done cheaper
gaskets/lines-$250 can be done cheaper

$3790 and that is retail prices. Where does the $4400 price come from? Once again let me say I think there work is top notch but in my opinion I can't justify the price.

I hope this doesn't start a flame war but look at this kit for the GTI 1.8T

www.goapr.com/VW/products/about_tvs3_bags.html

and it come with all the tuning to make it run smoth as silk. $4999 but the hardware included cost way more than what AMS is using.

 

Here you Go

http://www.turbodynamics.co.uk/

 

will someone wake me up when there are some dyno numbers posted?

 

Set your alarm for this weekend.

 

Overhead and profit, plain and simple.
In order to operate a business such as AMS, you need to get paid for the work that you do so that you can keep people employed. There are R&D costs. There are personell costs. The "retail" prices that you're quoting are internet jobber pricing. For a kit that fits well and has everything included, I don't think $600 or whatever it is is a "lot".

Gotta love internet economists.

Joe

 

The APR kit is generally considered to be the best VW/Audi turbo upgrade around. It's very complete out of the box and often works very well from the get go. I know probably 10+ people with the kit. That said it is only based around a GT28R or GT28RS turbo depending on the version; ceratainly the turbo is cheaper than a GT35R. I guess the price difference is due to lower volume and a well tuned fueling and chip package.