so what does this mean for us who live nowhere near Vishnu or tunning shops? meaning do we need a custum tune to start or just load a base map and go? i really want to purchase this but will it work if i alrdeay am running an EBC?

 

just load the appropriate basemap in the XEDE and all the SMART stuff and your set.

 

don't have to money for it until august, maybe i'll take a loan out!

 

Just Preordered SMART....this is going to be the longest month ever...lol.

 

Order placed! Let the mayhem begin, hehe

Once it's installed I'll have to get some lap times with and w/out SMART.

l8r)

 

Hm.. as I have a XFlash now. I want this bad.

If I send my ECU back to Vishnu, can you guys flash back to stock + XEDEFlash? Is that an option? I mean.. I'm downgrading!

 

As Drew said, most XEDE users who have never been custom-tuned on the dyno just need to upload the appropriate SMART baseline map into the XEDE and drive the pee out of it.

For those who have already been custom tuned, there is no reason to give this up. In the XEDE software, there is an "Import map data" feature that comes in handy. These custom tuned folks will open up the SMART baseline file and simply import the map data from their custom tuned map. This basically turns their custom-tuned non-SMART Xede map into a custom-tuned SMART Xede map. Heh heh!

If any v3 users want to play around with this feature, just Right-click on a map and select "Import map data". The browse and pick the file you want to yank info out of. Then pick which map/table you want to import. And then hit "Go." Of course, double-check your work before saving it (if, for some reason, you want to save it).

Cheers,
shiv

 

Yes! this is what we are looking for. Quantifiable real-world results. Please feel free to provide them when you can!

Shiv

 

If the map that we are using is not close enough to be in the SMART authority range how will it tell us what needs to be adjusted? I know that the SMART system now watches boost as well, but are the boost tables still on a % of solenoid operation, or will it be the plug in the desired boost level and go? I know that you were working on this and it seems like it woulf be easier for the software to see a problem and go from 22 lbs to 17 lbs when there is a problem rather then 97.3% to 81.2% solenoid operation, especially when someone is using other then the stock turbo, but I could be completely wrong as well. Thanks for the answers!

 

It's still all duty cycle based so the table will have to be scaled up or down if you have a nonfactory turbo with a nonfactory wastegate spring rate. Even if your set-up is very dissimilar to any baseline map we have, the SMART package does provide you with realtime info to dial in your own base fuel, timing and boost maps.

The Sequence of Events will be:

1) Find a nice road to do 3rd gear pulls on.
2) Get your base fuel maps dialed in so that the desired on-boost AFRs are reached. The XEDE will provide/log the wideband o2 readings.
3) Get your base timing map dialed in so that there is no big spikes in knock noise. The XEDE will provide/log the knock signal readings.
4) Get your boost table filled in so that you are seeing your desired boost level/MAF targets. XEDE will log MAF info as well.

5) Activate SMART timing, fuel, boost and let that do its thing.

What you effecively doing is desiging a map that would otherwise be marginal on a static, non-adaptive tuning platforms and turning it into a perfectly appropriate, max performance and adaptive map.

-Shiv

 

Will doing this on a dyno work or would a road tune just be better?

 

Either is fine. Just figured that a nice empty road is easier to come by.

 

Shiv
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Tuner

 

I feel like I am asking a ton of questions, but I would rather find out this way then the hard way.

4) Get your boost table filled in so that you are seeing your desired boost level/MAF targets. XEDE will log MAF info as well.

5) Activate SMART timing, fuel, boost and let that do its thing.

On number 4 do we have to tell the SMART system how much air flow we want at a certain RPM and it will hold it? And that means that we need to find out what boost number equals x airflow at y RPM? Sence the Ve of any given engine will be different due to its inherent flow characteristics we will have to produce this map and the the SMART system will keep x airflow at y RPM which would equate to a certain amount of boost? These question may be a bit inane, but I just want to understand how it is able to hold a boost # and this is the only way I see right now with what is available. You may know of several different ways for this to work however....

 

Thanks for the tip off.....I just pre-ordered as well.