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Old Feb 5, 2002 | 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by JaffaKaffafa
The MoTeC M48 Pro piggyback ECU is good. I confess to not knowing much about haltech but 'Gems' is also worth checking out.
Just saw this one, so the Motec M48 is a "piggyback" ECU, is it now? Very interesting... Please explain to me how you think the Motec "piggyback" ECU works. Or alternatively, have a look at the Motec website first, so you don't make even more of a fool of yourself. There's quite a few mistakes in your reasoning in this thread, which I could point out, but I really can't be arsed. I'm beginning to wonder whether you actually are some 16 year old boy with an internet connection and a lively imagination. Are you?
Old Feb 5, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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THAT really shows how little you know. Go and study the Ring, how fast people lap with what cars and then come back. Better yet, go and visit the place yourself and drive a lap around it and THEN get taken round in a 8:20 time and I guarantee you, you WILL be pissing your pants.

And afa getting into the semantics about quotes from Full Metal Jacket.... your first quote wasn't exactly right either, was it?

You get into a verbal battle and battle about facts with me, you LOSE, big time. So far I think I have proven everything that I have said and you have displayed your little knowledge about tuning, Evos, the car scene in general and the Ring. Now go and educate yourself and come back a better man.
You've proven nothing. Our understanding of proof clearly differs. Thank god you're not a judge. Come back in 5 years and tell me if all these engines that hold 1.6bar to the red with stock internals are still intact.

So far you've repeated the same points over and over again. In this time, I've become tired of repeating my counter-points and have decided that it would be more fun and time efficient just to take the **** out of you instead. I don't want to here anymore about your semen antics either flat eric.
Old Feb 5, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by Michaelk


Just saw this one, so the Motec M48 is a "piggyback" ECU, is it now? Very interesting... Please explain to me how you think the Motec "piggyback" ECU works. Or alternatively, have a look at the Motec website first, so you don't make even more of a fool of yourself. There's quite a few mistakes in your reasoning in this thread, which I could point out, but I really can't be arsed.
A quote from Banzai January/December 2002 Issue - the RC Developments Evo VI T.M.E article.

"Wanting to keep a good average power and driveability, the standard ECU will be kept for its low-end torque and cold start features but supervised by a MoTeC M48 Pro piggyback ECU."

Maybe you should try doing a bit of reading instead of always mouthing-off and thinking you know it all. Anyone would think you designed and built all 7 Evos single-handedly.

Also, if a standard skyline R34 can lap the 'ring in 7:59, then a lighter, 1.6bar EvoVI with say 380-385bhp should be able to at least equal this, even with a lesser driver - enter Michaelk.

Originally posted by Michaelk

I'm beginning to wonder whether you actually are some 16 year old boy with an internet connection and a lively imagination. Are you?
No, they've all seen the TV add warning them about people like you on the internet. Don't let your sexual fantasies get the better of you.

The fact is that I can quote things that are written in black and white by professionals and enthusiasts. You reply by saying something like, "Well my mate Bob, he runs 1.6bar on stock internals and Fred runs 1.7. Fred is fast. He lapped the 'ring in 1 day you know. He would have been faster too but our compass broke. When I was with Fred, I pissed my pants. If you were with Fred, you would **** your pants too. I am good, I know more about cars than you do. Motec do not make ECUs for pigs, so how is it that this one was attached to a pig's back? I am like Van Diesel. I rebuild my engine a quarter mile at a time you know, so will the real Slim Shady, pwease stand up, ppppwweease stand up. You're cowld as ice, cowld as ice to may."

DSM? You belong in the RSM (Royal Society for Muppets).

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Old Feb 5, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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The M48 is no "piggyback" ECU, CHECK THE WEBSITE!! They obviously made a mistake somewhere, do you have any other knowledge about tuning other than you're Banzai magazine?? The M4 is a piggyback ECU, and it could be that that's what they're using. The M48 series isn't!! It's a complete ECU which REPLACES the standard ECU. So who is mouthing off?? I keep reating my arguments because they don't seem to enter your thick skull, or you don't have enough spine to admit that I'm right. Like I've said before, I have no problem admitting I'm wrong as soon as you PROVIDE SOME PROOF!!

Let's hear the spec of that Skyline and who drove it. It'll probably be Dirk Schuiysman who is a Ring expert. You have NO concept at all about the Ring, do you? Have you ever driven a lap around there? If you have, then you haven't understood anything about what makes a car fast there. 1.6 bar 380-385bhp with a standard turbo, internals, cams, everything standard hardware wise?? What planet do you live on? Gerrit's car boosts up 1.5 bar (like I said before), which means a max of 350 bhp if you're lucky. There's a wise saying: If you don't know what you're talking about, then just shut up. As easy as that.

Sub 8:20 for anyone who doesn't drive professionally is a very good time around the Ring, regardless of what car. Maybe you could find the time a standard Evo 6 and 7 have managed with professional drivers? (I know them, but I'm just curious if you can find those times)

I'm also interested where you have actually managed to take the **** out of me? Can't find it anywhere. You need to get more info, a lot more skillful with your words and then we can maybe talk on the same level.
Old Feb 5, 2002 | 04:09 PM
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Sorry, Claude, the M4 and M4 Pro is used as a piggyback. It's used for exactly the reasons you stated. It has some of the same functions as the M48. Of course you can use the M48 as a piggyback, as you could with all fully remappable stand-alone ECUs. Just quite a waste of money.

Jaffa, read this: http://www.nurburgring.de/?rubrik=rekorde&lang=deu

You see, I'm a nice guy trying to further your knowledge.
Old Feb 5, 2002 | 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Michaelk
The M48 is no "piggyback" ECU, CHECK THE WEBSITE!! They obviously made a mistake somewhere, do you have any other knowledge about tuning other than you're Banzai magazine?? The M4 is a piggyback ECU, and it could be that that's what they're using. The M48 series isn't!! It's a complete ECU which REPLACES the standard ECU. So who is mouthing off?? I keep reating my arguments because they don't seem to enter your thick skull, or you don't have enough spine to admit that I'm right. Like I've said before, I have no problem admitting I'm wrong as soon as you PROVIDE SOME PROOF!!
That bit's taken care of.
Originally posted by Michaelk

Let's hear the spec of that Skyline and who drove it. It'll probably be Dirk Schuiysman who is a Ring expert.
The skyline was standard (maybe the tyres weren't but who uses standard tyres at track days). The GT3 made 7:56 in the same test and the Caterham 500R made 7:55. Since then, a Gemballa GTR600 has achieved 7.32 and an X5LM has achieved 7.49.
Originally posted by Michaelk

You have NO concept at all about the Ring, do you?
It's a race circuit. There, wrong again.
Originally posted by Michaelk

Have you ever driven a lap around there?
No but winding you up is fun.
Originally posted by Michaelk

If you have, then you haven't understood anything about what makes a car fast there. 1.6 bar 380-385bhp with a standard turbo, internals, cams, everything standard hardware wise??
I was assuming that the rest of the engine had been upgraded as well but I guess that I should have known better than to make such a rash assumption when dealing with you.
Originally posted by Michaelk

What planet do you live on?
Do you know of any internet connections to other planets you dumb ****.
Originally posted by Michaelk

There's a wise saying: If you don't know what you're talking about, then just shut up. As easy as that.
Here's another one, "It is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're stupid than to open your mouth and prove them right."
Originally posted by Michaelk

Sub 8:20 for anyone who doesn't drive professionally is a very good time around the Ring, regardless of what car.
Oh, I'm sure it is little Johnny. Well done, here's a Mars Bar. You've earned it.
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Maybe you could find the time a standard Evo 6 and 7 have managed with professional drivers? (I know them, but I'm just curious if you can find those times)
We weren't talking about a standard EvoVI though, were we. Again, you've taken a losing argument and changed it into one that you believe you can win.
Originally posted by Michaelk

I'm also interested where you have actually managed to take the **** out of me? Can't find it anywhere.
Can you actually read or are you just posting random words?
Originally posted by Michaelk

You need to get more info, a lot more skillful with your words and then we can maybe talk on the same level.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised someone as dumb as you can afford an Evo. Are you sure you're not just a ricer with a light blue Civic.....
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Old Feb 5, 2002 | 05:52 PM
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"It is better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're stupid than to open your mouth and prove them right."

Maybe you should obey what you're suggesting."Practice what you preach", eh?

If you don't believe me about the 8:20 time, go and talk to someone that you know that knows the circuit. That is if you actually know one who knows it...
Old Feb 5, 2002 | 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by Claudius
Jaffa

Can I have a Twix, please? I knew about the Motec!
I'll give you two twixs and a 24-pack if you close this thread before I get hit by a flying teddy-bear.

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Old Feb 5, 2002 | 07:13 PM
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If you would get hit with something by me it's this http://66.13.149.91/action.lasso?-da...e=detail.lasso

I carry it with me at most times.... and some other goodies, hehehe. Fell free to find out if you want, but hey, I ain't threatening you... just putting right what you assumed. Teddybears aren't as efficient as my baby. Best thing it's 100% legal here in Germany!

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Old Feb 5, 2002 | 07:18 PM
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Just a little word inbetween: This is FUN!!!
Old Feb 5, 2002 | 07:29 PM
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And Jaffa, why do you edit your answers after I have replied to them? Do you need to cheat to argue with me? But it's still no problem. Seems like you're a bit of a "rap" man, eh? Listen to "2nd round knock out" by Canibus and imagine you're LL Cool J, with me being Canibus of course. After that some selected Easy E stuff and imagine you're Dr Dre. And then some Dr. Octagon and then your little brain will be fully out of it.

What's your car pushing out BTW? Lots of little horses? Or is it still in the box?
Old Feb 5, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Michaelk
If you would get hit with something by me it's this http://66.13.149.91/action.lasso?-da...e=detail.lasso

I carry it with me at most times.... and some other goodies, hehehe. Fell free to find out if you want, but hey, I ain't threatening you... just putting right what you assumed. Teddybears aren't as efficient as my baby. Best thing it's 100% legal here in Germany!
Oh my god, you're one of them. What the hell do you use this for? Stay away everyone, if you value your rectal virginity.

Not threatening you either but if I see one of those things near me, I'll shoot you in the face.



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