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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by zectasy
yah i got this huge money tree in my backyard...it comes in handy! im just saying with the hks ssbov its a great bov and holds boost like no other...a side benefit of it is it sounds GREAT....**** 2f2f...i had this bov way back on my 95 gst way back before any movies were even out.....no other bovs out there look or sound or perform like the hksssbov...yah it might take a lil bit of extra money for it to get working right but **** it...its only money and it will pay off.
What does it take for you to get a clue here? The HKS SSQV does hold boost well, because it's a pull-type, but it doesn't perform any better than the rest of the BOVs out there that DON'T VTA, that DON'T need extra parts to run "ok", and that don't cost so much. In the end, you will have paid $300-400 to make this BOV make a lot of noise and cause compressor surge and richness between shifts. Wow. Oh, you also hold boost, but every other aftermarket BOV can do that, too. The only time to discuss using the HKS SSQV is when running huge boost. By then, you would hopefully be running a standalone with no MAF, so you can VTA to your heart's content. For those with a MAF and running regular boost on the stock turbo, there's no need for this "great bov."
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:36 AM
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yeah i was also looking at the turbo smart dual port half rbov/half vta
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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i think warrtalon doesnt like vta bovs......no i understand wat ur sayin thats y i thought about the turbosmart
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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You can run VTA. I ran an HKS SSQV ver 2 kit for about a year. I also ran the HKS EIDS to compensate for stalling. It does not affect your gas mileage. It does not require a stand alone fuel management system.

That being said, I recently switched to the APS--and its a much improved driving experience. The VTA is not as loud on the APS, but it still makes some sound. The HKS is loud as hell.

You will hold more boost with either the HKS or APS. You will notice that immediately. With the HKS you will also notice valve flutter and driveability issues at part throttle. It works great for WOT applications but sucks for a daily driver.

Go with the APS and get the best of both worlds. You still get a VTA BOV during WOT applications and all the driveability of Recirc during normal driving. Its a win-win.

As for the newbie stuff, this has been thrashed over and over on this board and thats why your getting a hard time. Search is your friend
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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so is the turbosmart ne good or is it just a big bucket of **** that u put under your hood?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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I have no experience with the Turbosmart or the Gofastbits BOVs. I have used the HKS on the Evo and also a Greddy on my old Eclipse. I think the Apexi BOV is also fairly decent.

I can say the APS unit is one of the best possible solutions.

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dingo7
so is the turbosmart ne good or is it just a big bucket of **** that u put under your hood?
How hard is it to search? We've been helping you AND asking you to search, but you refuse. The Turbosmart is GOOD. How do I know? BECAUSE I'VE READ PEOPLE'S REVIEWS OF IT. If you want the damn thing, do some research on it. I would recommend it over the HKS SSQV, but I still don't understand the incessant need to have any form of VTA. If you want to spend money unnecessarily so that you get noise, that's your prerogative, but if you want your car to go fast without spending all your money, then take a step back and think for a minute...
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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mabye he wanted the newest info/tips possible instead of something posted in 2004..... i dont see what the big deal is about searching......if you all really wanted to make him search you wouldnt post anything and he would figure it out, instead you take more time to write up a whiny post about how he should search......arent we all here to help eachother?
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Honni414
mabye he wanted the newest info/tips possible instead of something posted in 2004..... i dont see what the big deal is about searching......if you all really wanted to make him search you wouldnt post anything and he would figure it out, instead you take more time to write up a whiny post about how he should search......arent we all here to help eachother?
Because we're trying to help in two ways: giving some answers and persuading him to search. He is taking our info on the BOVs, but refusing to do any work on his own, which is downright insulting.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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If he wants to get an aftermarket "BOV" like the HKS let him, its his choice everyone!!!!!

What ever "BOV" you choose just make sure you RECIRCULATE it. The evo is set up to run MAF, and if you VTA, the computer has already added fuel for air that isn't there. This will only cause you problems over the long run.

I have a friend who has a HKS unit on his evo and he is recirculating it, and you can still hear some sound. It holds boost great, he is running 20 psi till redline, no leaks at all.

I know i don't have an evo yet (Just ordered my Black Evo IX this past saturday October 8, 2005) and im glad that it comes with a metal "JDM" reciculating valve. Im not going to change it out because RECIRCULATING is the best thing for an EVO. Yes, I do suggest replacing your plastic stock unit because it does leak, and just recirculate your next "BOV" and you will be fine.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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whats the big deal about a fcking vts blow off valve? just because some people like the sound doesnt mean its ricey....i was the first person in my town with a vta blow off valve about 6 years ago....ever since i love the sound and will prolly never get something that doesnt vta....also warralton why do you act so arrogant? you think your better than everyone cause you respond to threads you dont like? lol....and because you have a 12 second car...wow....congrats....
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by zectasy
whats the big deal about a fcking vts blow off valve? just because some people like the sound doesnt mean its ricey....i was the first person in my town with a vta blow off valve about 6 years ago....ever since i love the sound and will prolly never get something that doesnt vta....also warralton why do you act so arrogant? you think your better than everyone cause you respond to threads you dont like? lol....and because you have a 12 second car...wow....congrats....
Call it what you will, but venting to atmosphere on a MAF car just because it sounds cool is downright retarded. Please, continue to revel in your idiocy...fine by me.

The fact that you don't think buying a BOV just for the sound is ricey says it all, because that is the VERY DEFINITION OF RICE: installing performance parts for reasons other than performance, such as aesthetics (e.g. sound), especially when the part in question will cause a DECREASE in performance.

Yeah, a 12-second car that runs 12.01 on the stock turbo with an OEM BOV, stock intake, stock turbo, stock IC piping, and stock cams. Not impressive at all, I know. Maybe if I replaced my DV with an HKS SSQV in VTA mode, the noise would put me in the 11s?

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:12 AM
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I'll sell my HKS SSQV with Ver 2 upper IC pipe for $150 shipped. But I'm not responsible for how much you may or may not hate it. I'll throw in my SAMCO fittings as well.

That way you can try it and sleep easy knowing that you didn't get totally ripped off at $400.

If you go to resell it after you buy the APS, please sell it to someone else for the same price.

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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Warrtalon if they want to run VTA let them, just leave it alone. They will find out that it will only cause them problems, since the evo is set up to run on MAF.

The only thing i suggest is to replace the crappy plastic unit, and go with any aftermarket unit, just make sure to recirculate it. You will still get some "SOUND" just not like VTA. Or, for a cheaper alt. to an aftermarket, get a JDM unit. Like is said in my first post, my friend as an 04 evo, he has the HKS unit recirculating and its a great unit.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO316
Warrtalon if they want to run VTA let them, just leave it alone. They will find out that it will only cause them problems, since the evo is set up to run on MAF.

The only thing i suggest is to replace the crappy plastic unit, and go with any aftermarket unit, just make sure to recirculate it. You will still get some "SOUND" just not like VTA. Or, for a cheaper alt. to an aftermarket, get a JDM unit. Like is said in my first post, my friend as an 04 evo, he has the HKS unit recirculating and its a great unit.
As good as that sounds, I am attempting to save them the trouble. I could just ignore them every time and let them make mistakes, but I'm trying to save them from the trouble.

I also have a good friend with an MR running the SSQV recirculated, and it works fine for daily driving and at the drag strip. He did run into problems at the road course, though, because it makes part-throttle driving hard to control. It wasted about a day's worth of racing while he tried to get it tuned in properly with the nut adjustments.
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