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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Talking atp 3071 installed with jestr tuning reflash

I finally got around to having my atp 3071r kit installed. Kit was very straightforeward. I also installed a set of 660cc injectors. I went down to CFT to the mustang dyno to see where I was at and have the car tuned by John.

My mods are:

-atp 3071r kit
-Greddy 660cc injectors
-megan exhaust manifold
-Ultimate racing test pipe
-RMR cat back exhaust
-wally 255
-HKS 280 cams (stock cam gears)

All pulls were done on Citgo 93 octane.

My baseline run was 282.6 HP and 257.2 TQ.

John got to work with his labtop....

After 2 pulls my numbers were 362.4 HP and 319.2 TQ at 22 PSI.

Needless to say my car needed John's attention. Its crazy that I found an extra 80 HP from the tuning.

The car pulls hard, and I know I have a lot of room left in it. I will get some cam gears and arp headstuds and try again. But I am very happy with the results. The car is right where I want it to be. I dont use race fuel or methanol and will continue to not use them.


Jestr tuning really knows his stuff.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 11:37 PM
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so 362 on pump gas right? how pany psi? do u stilll have stock downpipe?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 11:42 PM
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362 on pump at 22psi. The atp kit has its own 3inch downpipe
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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nice numbers without alky
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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It kinda looks like you're giving up 1000 rpm before the power comes on when compared to stock.

Do you feel this tradeoff is worth it?
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mhgsx
It kinda looks like you're giving up 1000 rpm before the power comes on when compared to stock.

Do you feel this tradeoff is worth it?
I feel that my current setup is worth it, but without cam gears, the 280's are hurting my bottom end.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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Just curious on why you aren't willing to run meth? You'd rather have spent all that money and time on an upgraded turbo kit that has more lag and delayed power when you could have made more power than that on the stock turbo with just a meth kit? Just curious on the reasoning there...

If you ever decide to go with meth on that turbo and cam setup, you will have an absolute monster. Until then, it will just be "ok."
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:57 AM
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I dont like NOS, METH or race gas. Its just a preference of running my car with the power it really has, all of the time.

Its like some guy who says, "I would have beat you if I was not out of methanol."

Just a preference. There are guys here in town making much more power than me with meth, that is of course, when they are not out of it.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dru
I dont like NOS, METH or race gas. Its just a preference of running my car with the power it really has, all of the time.

Its like some guy who says, "I would have beat you if I was not out of methanol."

Just a preference. There are guys here in town making much more power than me with meth, that is of course, when they are not out of it.
I understand and concur with that sentiment as it pertains to race gas and N20, but not meth. Alcohol is really easy to get, you can store it, you don't have to go to a N20 distributor, and you can use it constantly without worry. Being out of meth is pure laziness and the use of meth should not be lumped in with those other 2. Your turbo is capable of running much more boost than that. It's far more effective at 25 than at 22, but you need meth to do that on 93oct. If you did, I think you'd be a very happy man, but it is up to you of course. Again, I would think a $400 alky kit would be much more economical than an entire turbo upgrade. Both together, though, would be lights out!
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I understand and concur with that sentiment as it pertains to race gas and N20, but not meth. Alcohol is really easy to get, you can store it, you don't have to go to a N20 distributor, and you can use it constantly without worry. Being out of meth is pure laziness and the use of meth should not be lumped in with those other 2. Your turbo is capable of running much more boost than that. It's far more effective at 25 than at 22, but you need meth to do that on 93oct. If you did, I think you'd be a very happy man, but it is up to you of course. Again, I would think a $400 alky kit would be much more economical than an entire turbo upgrade. Both together, though, would be lights out!
Is that easy to get?
I still haven't found anywhere selling pure meth near my house or work place. I don't feel like driving extra miles to just get meth.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by taenaive
Is that easy to get?
I still haven't found anywhere selling pure meth near my house or work place. I don't feel like driving extra miles to just get meth.
I don't know about meth itself, but you can get denatured alcohol at the hardware store.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Nice number!

Tom
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Just curious on why you aren't willing to run meth? You'd rather have spent all that money and time on an upgraded turbo kit that has more lag and delayed power when you could have made more power than that on the stock turbo with just a meth kit? Just curious on the reasoning there...

If you ever decide to go with meth on that turbo and cam setup, you will have an absolute monster. Until then, it will just be "ok."
This is a Mustang dyno on which the numbers a going to be lower than a Dynojet. He would probably fall in the 420-430whp on a Dynojet. Sure a stock turbo can do that....but not on pump gas. I have only seen these numbers on race gas with the stock turbo. Highest I've seen on meth is under 400whp. Not to mention that the stock turbo cars that make that type of power do it early and then peter out on top. Not the case with this turbo.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Drifto
This is a Mustang dyno on which the numbers a going to be lower than a Dynojet. He would probably fall in the 420-430whp on a Dynojet. Sure a stock turbo can do that....but not on pump gas. I have only seen these numbers on race gas with the stock turbo. Highest I've seen on meth is under 400whp. Not to mention that the stock turbo cars that make that type of power do it early and then peter out on top. Not the case with this turbo.
I disagree. The numbers I've seen from that dyno have been consistent with Dynojet numbers. This is exactly why I complain about those dyno claims. People go to a dyno, then come here and make claims saying "it's a Mustang Dyno," without realizing the dyno was already calibrated to read like a Dynojet.

That is, unless you think these mods will make 335awhp on a typical Mustang Dyno:

HKS 264/264
ARP Headstuds

Jestrtuning Custom Tune
Tubular SS exhaust manifold
3" HKS downpipe
3" Ultimate Racing Race pipe
3" Megan Racing Cat Back
3" Megan o2 housing
AEM Short Ram Intake
Walboro 255lph Fuel pump
Greddy Profec II @ 22 psi
SAFC II
Greddy TYPE-S bov

93oct, no meth mid-September on the same dyno. That would mean this car is making the equivalent of 370-380whp on a Dynojet without meth, race gas, or a standalone EMS? I'm not so sure. Again, the track is truest measure...
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Great numbers and great choice not to run Meth as it is not for everyone. My buddy blew up his motor because the device failed to spray and was forced into a costly rebuild. Keep it how YOU prefer and don't let people steer you in either direction.
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