OK, what about this, for those who think your not getting enough outta your 20g, why not get the RNR's new ram header from them? just going off of what has been posted now, that would take your 330-350 whp 20g to ( from what rnr claims) to a amazing 365-380 whp. i dont think anyone could be unhappy with appoximatly 375 whp on pump and stock like spool. but hey, this is just what ive read.

 

Once David gets one of these to test (if he ever does) this may be an option. Probably not a very cost effective option tho.. it will cost almost as much as the turbo itself.

 

Hey Dave, are you getting any surging with the new 20G-9? Thanks.

 

that may be a good idea. That combo could net over 400 WHP with 93octane and MEth. :P
or maybe 450 WHP on DynoJet!

 

I put down 357 hp 357 tq on the stock 9.8 hotside 03 turbo. I know you have been working hard on this turbo Dave, but those number are horrible for upgrading the turbo. He was on race gas at that time too. I remember his post from the dyno day. I was on 93 oct with meth. 26psi. People can bash my comments all you want. There is nobody here who would be happy putting down 11 more horsepower over an 03 turbo with this 20g.

 

Those are awesome numbers. But you have methanol and are boosting 26psi. I don't plan on using methanol and plan to only boost 21-23psi. Do you have a test pipe? I am running a cat. I also plan to run 264 cams. You see my plan is to keep my car emissions legal and run on gasoline. None of this alky/methanol junk or what not. Which is why I have high hopes for this 20G-9.

 

Creamo was boosting 26psi as well on race gas that day at the dyno. That'ts atleast what he posted in the AMS dyno thread. And yes, I run a test pipe.

 

Oh Ya

just read your Arizona post then

(PS - I also decided it was a good time to break some dyno records over there at Vivid racing !

Anyone on the 3rd who wants to get done on the dyno just let me know and I will switch you to sunday)

I thould you dont want to dont want to get into any silly internet pissing contest about dyno numbers. haha

 

**** edwin if i would have known u were still gonna be up i woulda come chilled but i figured after i dropped her off u guys would all be in bed lol

 

No surging with the EVO9 turbo.

Comparing dyno sheets from different cars at different dyno's with different fuel and different modifications is about as freaking ignorant as any comparison can come. Anyone taking offense to that statement is also ignorant.

I can't put it any better than that. (BTW, ignorant is the word of the day today

Meth/pump, race gas, pump gas, blah blah blah. I do testing the right way. Not the internet way. It is funny to see some of the posts here comparing this to that and then talking poorly about something I know works. You just can't compare things the way some of you are trying to do.

When I dyno something I make a baseline pull. It is RARE for me to do the next part test on a different day. If it is something major or I got held up I might have to but normally it is like this, pull the car in, make a few baseline pulls. Then change a part and load the car back on the dyno and pull it again. When I do this I keep track of boost and AFR's.

You can't have your buddy with a list of parts on his car from Ebay show up at "Tony's bestest Dyno Shop" and dyno his car on race gas and post 350/350 with his Elmer Fudd turbo and then you take your car to "Jim Bob's even bestester Dyno Shop" on pump/alky and a stock turbo and make 450/450 and use that for any kind of comparison. It's just BS.

Can you guys tell I am slightly frustrated? I try to hide it most days. Today isn't that day I guess.

This topic is 100% fine with me. 100%. The customer got to make his side of what he thinks and I have got the chance to make mine. I feel he got what he paid for and I think he does too, just now happy with the surging or the numbers. As he said he never dyno'd on an AWD MD before. This explains the disapointment in the numbers AND explains why the hp/torque curves look good and the car is "extremely fast."

The part that is getting me is the other guys jumping in comparing different cars, different days, different fuels etc., etc. It's just not how you do a comparison.

Today, if we get a chance, and I highly doubt we will. I am going to put my RS back on the dyno with the high boost actuator (coming in today overnight Sat. delivery) and re-dyno my car on 94 again. I think the spool up will be slightly better and the boost should hold much better. I am hoping for a flat 22-23 psi boost line like the 20g-8 had. This will make for a killer curve and pump gas turbo. I'll have to run the fuel out of the car or drain it for next week as I want to put some race gas back in it and see if I can break 400 whp.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

Oh BTW, if I take it over to that "Jim Bob's even bestester Dyno Shop" I feel completely confident that I can hit atleast 537.6 whp and 652.99 ft lbs!! haha

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

yeah, but when you are frustrated you shouldnt keep it in anyway. its good that you are expressing it.

Did you get the forge upgraded wastegate? I was thinking of getting a wastegate upgrade for my stock 05 EVO turbo as well....tightening it a bit to perhaps hold higher boost to redline....and using it in conjunction with my EBC...

 

That is not really an accurate or meaningful comparision to make however

You see Cremo3 's car was tuned for straight PUMP gas at 21 psi of boost

It was set up so he could pour in some race gas and turn up the boost to 24 psi or so to go a bit faster

OF COURSE with a straight race gas tune he would have mad signioficantly more power

ALSO - he was NOT tuned for methanol injection as you were tuned

Creamo3 specifically asked that his tune be left conservative and safe - zero risk

With a more agressive tune and methanol he could have easily reached the very high 300's if not 400 whp with that turbo

REMEMBER ALWAYS gentlemen - dynos are for testing and tuning only - we race at the track and that is where you discover how fast your car is.

 

AWESOME post Dave, Their are so many people in here that still continue to compare dyno #'s from a dyno in blah blah blah city to the dyno 10 states over with a ton of variables. People in here that post they made this and that, bottom line is what did you do at the track. That is the ONLY way to compare where your car is at, not dyno #'s from all different states, different, dates, different cars , etc..

 

Well said AL