It is regratable to see Vendors acting in this manner

I feel that Shiv has personally lowered the entire tone of this whole message board over the past few weeks he has been resorting to his same negative marketing methods to promote his Ecutek tuning

Its always interesting to note that the people who are complaining about a quality, excelent product like the BR330 are other vendors and not the acutal customers. On the contrary do a search and you will find that the owners of the BR cars have raved about the experience.

Here we have a total of 4 authorized Ecutek dealers participating in this discussion about testing a BR330 car tuned with ecutek. I find this a very disspointing stats of affairs

 

Well atlvalet, you must be looking through some smoke colored glasses to not see the same thing I am.

When I test someone else's product I set out to do a fair test. I don't first make comments about "MOON DYNOS" and such. Isn't that an indicator that there might just be some type of hard feelings or something between the two shops? That would be an indicator to just about anyone that a fair test isn't coming down the pipes.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

No, but you do say something like this...

DB on ther FMIC thread...
And then you go on to test it and claim that both your IC and the Nesei IC perform similarly. Maybe you were fair with your in house testing. Maybe you weren't. But the point is that perhaps you should hold yourself to the same standards you try to impose upon your competitors.

shiv

 

I sure did and then went on to prove the point of the ambient air and pressure loss.

Get lost.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

Maybe this is what you meant by ambient air and pressure loss, so forgive me if thats what you said in the thread about it. But, in extreme cases, you could cool the air so that it appears below ambient temperature. It's just extremely hard, requires some pressure drop and moving fluid.

Air goes into intercooler, slows down, static pressure rises. It's cooled to near ambient temperatures, speeds back up, pressure drops. (Bernoulli principle) When the static pressure drops, so does the apparent temperature read from any probe not well within the head of the fluid flow.

I've heard of one other case where this happened. Of course, since temperature in a fluid is essentially defined by the average kinetic energy of the particles therein, the temperature isn't actually below ambient. But, because much of the kinetic energy is directed in the direction of the fluid flow, the temperature probe will not "see" that kinetic energy unless it protrudes well into the flow.

Hopefully I'm not beating a dead horse. I just thought that was interesting.

 

Sorry, OT rant:

So, let's summarize how this thread is quickly going down the drain.

First there is some confusion as to what the BR330 really stands for, which initially was assumed to be 330whp (by Warralton), but then summarized nicely by DB:

Then claims get made that 330whp on Buschur's Mustang dyno equal a 124mph trap speed. In response to which (ignoring the snide remarks in between) a simple and reasonable question is asked:

Ok, yes it was confirmed with Buschur's own car.

Then someone makes the simple statement that they are going to dyno a BR330, and immediately get denounced for being biased?!?

followed by:

riiiiight.... especially since the moon dyno was in response to your jibe ....

Can I assume that the vendor statement was meant to include Buschur and yourself? (because it certainly should) Furthermore, how did we suddenly arrive at 4 vendors discussing the tuning of a BR330? We didn't, because the discussion really was about Evo 9 ECU tuning in general. Although quite a few of the involved vendors did manage to make uncalled for comments (that includes the IC testing comment by Shiv). Quite frankly the only thing that needs to "get lost" are the bad attitudes around here.

/end rant

Now, getting back to Evo 9 questions, I have two of them:

- are the injectors the same size as on the VIII?
- has the fuel pump been upgraded vs. the VIII?

l8r)

 

The fuel pump is changed on the IX - no need to upgrade it under 400 whp - same injectors as far as I have seen

 

Guys, guys, what the HELL happened to this thread? Today is the first time I started to read it. It started out great, and Shiv was giving the evom community a wealth of information. We're lucky to have tuners post in-depth info like this -- it's good reading, and certainly educational to learn how the different ECUs work.

I was gonna post to say "Nice work, Shiv!", but then figured I'd go to page 5. I then found myself transported into a toilet bowl with a bunch of people pissing all over the place.

Like Shiv said, if things get uncivilized, start a new thread and ***** there. But at least let him post up his findings on the IX ECU in peace. TIA

 

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Shiv: Nope that was something else. It was eventually sorted out. What I just posted up is something else all together.

SmokinJoe-- nope
jj_008-- nope

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dont be upset just because you guessed wrong jeez

 

S hit works both ways homey.

 

i think other tuners should post their findings and accomplishments along with their service/products on their own thread and not to hijack any other's thread