str8ryda,

It is 100% obvious that you did not read anything that I wrote. It is almost a joke what you quoted and commented on.

I said by the time the adjuster gets around to looking at the car, meaning it is usually awhile from the time the wreck happens, to the time the body shop looks at it, to the time the adjuster goes to the body shop and looks/approves repairs.

I also said I know of guys who take things off their cars and it is NOT something I would do.

I also said, DO NOT TAKE your bumper support out.

I also said anything that I did say was just my opinion.

I also said our FMIC does fit with the support in there.

I also pointed out that I feel the front bumper support can in cases cause more severe damage being in place to the front frame rails than if you didn't have it. I also said the front bumper beam is very narrow and if you hit anything slightly above or below it the intercooler was still going to be damaged.

Did you just want to jump my butt for nothing or did you really not read anything I spent time typing?

Outlaw620,

At the time I did not think you could make the stock lower pipe work with the race FMIC. I now (as of this week) know that you can. Also in Vegas I had not yet made the plumbing kit as I told you. Nick and Jarrod both now know that all of our intercoolers can be made to work with the stock plumbing. I did have to build your pipe kit custom but the good news is that the lower i/c pipe kit should work with just about anyone's GT35R kit. You will just need an elbow to get from the outlet of the turbo to the 2.5" pipe I built for you.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

David, I know that your RS started out with a Deluxe FMIC and at some point you put the Race FMIC on instead. Did you dyno the difference? I have an early '05 Deluxe kit and am wondering about upgrading to the Race FMIC with your new price reduction. I guess I'm specifically wondering whether it would add over 10 whp and whether it would add a noticeable increase in lag. Thanks.

 

did I miss something? Was there a price reduction on the Race FMIC or just the deluxe? Thanks

 

I am tired of trying to explain this to you. If you want to believe that an air to air FMIC cools the charge air to below ambient temperature on a regular basis (rather than on rare ocasions for a very short period of time under very specific and unusual operating conditions) then go ahead and believe what you want. This defys all logic, all physics, all common sense AND all emperical data..... but you go ahead and believe what you want. After you pattent your perpetual motion machine and make more money than I will ever see you can call me up and tell me how much of a fool I am, until then....... I can't go any further with this without getting personal and nasty so I will drop it at this point.

Keith

 

OK people, how many times have you ever seen me and Shiv agree 100% on something? Pretty much a slam dunk in my book!

Keith

 

The front bumper is (In my opionion) for liability reasons and passenger protection only. It will not protect your FMIC even in a minor colision. The bumper folds like tinfoil and crushes the FMIC. I would never remove my front bumper, just pointing out that it will not save your expensive FMIC in a crash.... but having it in place WILL prevent the claims adjuster from denying your claim on replacing that crushed up FMIC

Keith

 

this is wrong, if you bring a pot of water out into the fog at 190* F it will steam not because it heats the air and allows it to accept more moisture, visable steam itself is not water that is being accepted by the air but rather water that is being pushed into the area above the source because there is not enough pressure to keep it in liquid solution and it escapes as liquid particulate.

also... something that stays cold and wet forever is far from a perpetual motion machine... space stays cool for forever, and the ice in space will certainly stay wet forever. a perpetual motion machine or a heat ratchet is something that takes IN heat energy and does nothing else but that with no losses. but i guess what you're saying is that if you had an intercooler that was always colder than ambient then somehow your environment was a heat ratchet....

the second law of thermodynamics states that you cannot make a machine such that it converts heat into usable work and does nothing else.

 

Sometimes, I convert food into UNuseFUL work and nothing else. Does that count?

Sorry.... you're right about the steam thing though...

C

 

Rich,

I did not dyno the difference in the Deluxe and the Race when I put it on. Al did on his car and I built it originally for our black car. I noticed at the track that there was virtually NO tempurature increase on a 141 mph pass so knew it would have to help.

Tell you what. If you are interested in one and want to come down I will dyno the car before and after. If it picks up for you keep it, if not we'll pull it back off. You have to take your undertray off before you get here though

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

The race FMIC is $695, the deluxe is $695 and the standard is $600.

David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com

 

Why can't I have tuners like this where I live!?! It's SOOO unfair!!!

 

On the pot of water example: You are looking at it from a vapor pressure viewpoint. Your explanation is correct, but it is not relevent to the point I was trying to illistrate about heat transfer and phase change from liquid to vapor, and phase change from vapor to liquid.

If the cool outside air is saturated with water (fog conditions) and you take a pot of hot water outside and it steams (which it will do) does it or does it not carry heat energy out of the pot of water up into the air? You know as well as I do that when the water undergoes a phase change into steam it does carry heat energy up into the air and as soon as it cools just a tinny little bit (heat energy leaving the steam into the surrounding air) the steam will undergo a phase change back into liquid water.

You do agree that an intercooler (or anything else) that says cold (below ambient) and wet (moisture droplets on the outside surface) in a dry (non moisture saturated) air stream while having a huge heat load (hot charge air comming in) would violate all physical laws, common sense, and emperical data..... correct?

Later,

Keith

 

Wow...that's a really nice offer. Unfortunately I'm not local enough to take advantage of it. But some day I'll make the trek when I'm ready to step up to something major, like an EMS, built motor, etc. Thanks though!

 

haha no... and your body does many things besides make poopies...

the idea is this, by the laws of conservation of energy if you had a boat and it ran on heat... there is an endless amount of heat sitting in the ocean. why can't you have a boat that just sits there and takes in heat and uses this heat to move, it "cools" the ocean in order to get its energy and move. it absolutely satisfies the conservation of energy principles, it's getting hte energy from the ocean, the ocean is losing energy hte boat is gaining the same amount and then using it to propel itself so hence transfering that heat into kinetic energy.

the catch is thermodynamics... this picture does not account for any thermodynamic laws or properties and if there is anything htat has been sure over all the years of science is that the thermodynamic laws always stand. (they were willing to throw out conservation of energy when einstein discovered proposed relativity and the energy mass equation. there were certain discreptncies in weights of atoms after ratiation reactions and they didn't know how to account for it besides just saying that energy was not conserved!).

 

Firstly, the whole point of this argument was to explain that it is indeed POSSIBLE for an intercooler to cool the air to below ambient temperatures. It wasn’t an argument of if it happens on a regular basis. Secondly, this does not defy logic nor does it defy physics (though, maybe your internet physics…combined with little bit of NOVA?). And defy empirical data? Come on! My temp sensor registered below ambient temperatures as well as Nisei’s tests. Is that not empirical enough for you? And lastly, I don’t need to violate the first law of thermodynamics to tell you what a fool you are.