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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Yea, i do. After i get done eating, i'm going to try my buddies Hallman with the stiff spring. I'll post my findings. Thanks Warr.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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WOW, 70 clicks on the stiff spring??? Are you sure you have the stiff spring? You may have the soft spring, double check just in case.

In my case the problem seems to be gone (and I hope for ever). I've driving my car in all possible ways, and no spikes so far. Greasing the ball seems to fix the problem, and I still think that a larger ball would be the way to go.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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FINALY!

So i installed my buddies Hallman with the stiff spring. Just like i hoped it would, it held 21 pounds with just a little spike 23. But at least it held and that told me my UNOS was the problem as thought. So.. Once again, took the UNOS apart and CLEANED the sucker with Q tips and brake cleaner. Q-tips turned black again and this time i'm for certain it's blingn' like the day it was made. So now i'm greasing it up with Mobil 1 synthetic grease made for bearings and things. Came in a can the size of a set of 50 burnable CD's, was red in color, and cost 6 bucks. Put the thing back together, and BINGO! 21 solid pounds with NO spike, NO creep, all the way to red line in every gear. This time, it took me 18 clicks as before all this spiking happend, it took me about 7 clicks to hold 21. Anyone want to race me in taking apart a Forge UNOS, cleaning it, and putting it back together blind folded? I've done it 7 times in 2 days now.

Thanks to JuancaROD, Warrtalon, Mike@Forge, EvoM, and everyone else that assisted me with this issue. I can't thank you guys enough. My hat is off to all of you!

EDIT: Forgot about my DSM buddy that goes by RiG on the San Diego forums that loaned me the Hallman and has helped me with my Evo many many times.

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Man you guys got me scared. I'm meeting Al on the 22 for a custom road tune and I just installed some go fast parts today in order to get the full potential of the Flash. I now have a full 3 in system including the high flow cat. I didn't have enought time to install my boost gauge and Forge MBC. I am installing that tomorrow though. I talked to Al one night and he strongly recommended the Forge MBC over all others. With all these spikes and issues with the Unos, I wonder if I made the right choice. What do you guys think?
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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you made the right choice dont worry. Before you install it, make sure the spring is seated properly and if you really want to be on the safe side, dab the ball with a little synthetic bearing grease. I don't think you'll ever have a problem.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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No doubt. If you read this entire thread, all of us wanted this UNOS to work so bad and weren't willing to switch to any other brand. The Forge is a bad *** MBC and I would clean it again and again to keep it. Although i doubt i'll have to crack it open again anytime soon after this last cleaning i gave it? Trust me, you'll love this MBC, and it'll love you back if you keep her nice and sparkly inside and out!
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Well, while I'm exstatic that greasing the unit solved your problem, I'm concerned that it was "sticking" and creating the spikes to begin with.

I haven't given up on trying to resolve this issue as we tirelessly work to ensure 100% customer satisfaction with all of our products and the lifetime warranty on all of our parts means that they're covered no matter what, but if greasing the units is working for the time being, them I might recommend that you all try it until I can come up with a more permanent solution.

If anyone has any doubts about our products, I can only try to assure you that ALL of our products carry a lifetime warranty against defects and failure, and the only reason preventing this issue from being resolved more quickly is that I have yet to experience this problem myself to be able to figure out a more permanent solution. That doesn't mean we're not trying, however.

If ANYONE, EVER has any issues with one of our products, we're here to help take care of it, whether it means repairing something, replacing it, or refunding the entire purchase price.

Let's stick with the greasing option for now and I'll keep working on things on my end!
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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We finally did it! I'm still going to change the ball though, with all the pressure and vacuum coming and going the grease will get sucked and the MBC will stop working sometime again.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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There should be no vacuum to the boost controller if it is referenced from the turbo outlet nipple. It would only see vacuum if it was referenced from the intake manifold (shared BOV line)

There should be no issues with having a small amount of grease in there!
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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Mike, what's the diameter of the ball? I want to try something about 1 mm bigger, and I'll post my results.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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I don't know off hand. I'll have to check when I get into the office tomorrow!
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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Thanks guys. One gripe though. My MBC didn't come with any instructions or info on the product itself. I'm trying to understand the "clicks" part of, but when I move the adjustment knob, it seems tough to move positive or negative. I certainly didn't feel any "click" type movement. Plus without instructions on what the internals look like, I didn't even think about opening it up. BTW- Did you guys use the the Turbine nipple, or the the BOV method. I was recommended the Turbine nipple way.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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I suppose so. But... When it works, it WORKS! I bet i can take this thing out, clean it, and grease it in less than 10 minutes now so it's no big deal anymore. Besides that, you can't beat the "clicking" portion of this controler. I wouldn't tade it for anything else... Except orders to a warmer state. I'm Air Force and stuck in North Dakota with negative temps daily.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:45 PM
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Thanks for the explanation, I didn't know that. My MBC is connected directly to the turbo outlet nipple, so that applies to me.


Originally Posted by Mike@Forge
There should be no vacuum to the boost controller if it is referenced from the turbo outlet nipple. It would only see vacuum if it was referenced from the intake manifold (shared BOV line)

There should be no issues with having a small amount of grease in there!
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by anthonypazsd
Thanks guys. One gripe though. My MBC didn't come with any instructions or info on the product itself. I'm trying to understand the "clicks" part of, but when I move the adjustment knob, it seems tough to move positive or negative. I certainly didn't feel any "click" type movement. Plus without instructions on what the internals look like, I didn't even think about opening it up. BTW- Did you guys use the the Turbine nipple, or the the BOV method. I was recommended the Turbine nipple way.

Mike recomends using the turbo. Before i knew this, i used the BOV line and installed off someones pictures they posted. Had i known that it's better to do the other way, i would have. But being too lazy mixed with extremly cold temps.... I think i'll just leave it like this for the time being.
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