I think we are "self correcting" our way of life, lifestyle, and are headed in the wrong direction. the past is the past, spending our money like there is no tomorrow, there will be a WEALTHY class, and a POOR class, nothing in between. I could have made this post make sence, but I am sleepy, I will try again tomorrow! (If there is one)

 

Sounds like some other countries I know

 

So leave?

 

That wasnt how I ment it but like some real goods posts before, including Als we have alot to look at and need to understand. We have a lot that we are responsible for. And keep your comments to yourself about telling people to leave. My family has a long history all the way back to the founding of this country and many vets some that gave all. There isnt a better way to **** off an American than to pulpit a "then leave" without trying to care were they came from. That is a very big part of the problem.

 

There is a good chance that the clothes you wear, the chips you use,
your computer, ect has parts that are manufactured from China.

Everything else, I actually agree with.

David, looks like you got your wish, cause this guy isn't making any sense.
Someone must have bit him in his neck... O_o

 

ok to this and all the other accountant comments, you're right, i'm wrong. i'm going back right now and correcting what i said. it's the greedy people on top that employ accountants and use them as scapegoats etc that ends up turning our corperations into bloodsucking inhumane institutions.

 

This has become a very controversial subject. Just about every car magazine you pick up has an article about the chinese parts imitation problem. No matter how you look at it, quality parts are being manufactured and sold at a way cheaper price than their American counterparts. It is up to the individual to decide whether or not to buy these products, but in the end, price ALWAYS prevails. Buying these products is bad for our economy, almost as bad as buying a foreign made car. However there really is nothing that can be done about it, unless some type of federal regulation is put into effect, which is VERY unlikely. Alot of people think Wal-Mart is evil because they have such a huge amount of buying power they are able to sell to the public at a much lower price than other smaller companies. Wal-mart is responsible for wiping out thousands upon thousands of small businesses. Is this EVIL? Once again it is up to the individual to decide, however I think it is pretty obvious Wal-Mart is doing very well business wise. Despite the large amount of people in this country that despise Wal-Mart's aggressive business tactics, the low price of their products has prevailed and has forced all competing businesses to lower their prices accordingly (this is called competition). If there is one good thing that will come out of these cheap chinese imitation parts, it will be the lowering of prices on American made products and perhaps also an increase in the quality of them as well. To compete with the chinese (and other countries) the American parts manufacturers will HAVE to decrease their prices and/or make higher quality products or face bankruptcy. This is how business works. Competition is a natural and very healthy aspect of any market. If American companies cannot figure out how to cut costs and lower manufacturing costs (while keeping or increasing the quality of their products) then they will not survive.

 

Have you read the previous posts, there is a reason why the chinese manufactures can make products at such a cheap rate. Unless your willing to put your 10 year old daughter up to make shoes for 30 cents an hour to compete with the chinese, you can't possibly believe in your own statement.

 

there are many industries that use china to make stuff and they do reinvest in their company's technology and the quality control is there, but you would need to find such motivated people in an american company to make sure things are done right. it's hard enough to make sure things are done right within us borders... how are you suppose to keep tabs on people in china that don't understand english as well etc etc.

and ludikraut has very good points.

3240... diamonds are actually artificially marketed... the supply of diamonds is almost endless... even the cutting of diamonds and the labor involved does not justify the price. diamonds are of course maintained at an artificial supply and demand level where the supply will never meet hte demand even tho technically the supply is there.

 

Great post, here are some of my thoughts

an economy is based on the manufacture of goods from materials, China is replacing the US in this area and we will suffer because of it. I believe that China will have major growing pains in the future, but will cripple other nations with their quest for world dominance. In order to slow or stop this it will take a massive effort to educate the population of our country and a bit of sacrifice for many of us. I think it's worth it.



General Motors has to make an immediate effort to compete with the "look" of cars like the Altima and Accord. I can't figure out why they continue to produce lifeless cars like the Cobalt and Impala.

 

Everyone taking econ classes in college will know that at its current rate, China will have the strongest economy by far within the next 10 years. They are finally becoming the economic giant they were suppose to be 50 years ago.

 

you guys talk about how china pollute the earth yet you don't look at the amount of pollution that we put out with the massive amount of vehicles that we have in the USA (not to mention all the huge v8 muscle cars and SUVs). we are the largest consumer of crude oil in the world, you don't think consumption of crude oil yields pollution. what about the nuclear waste we produce that will be around for thousands of years for our children to inherit. you guys bicth about how china pollute the earth yet you drive around with a test pipe instead of a high flow cat.

 

Yup things we need to address. Watch out for the guy telling people to leave then

 

Americans are outsourcing themselves. I deal with both Chinese and American vendors and I'm not particularly pleased to say, in my experience, the Chinese are not only cheaper but 10x faster and easier to deal with.

In China you need to spend more time on your engineering and production engineering for the product to come out right and agree/select vendors based on an agreed criteria for human rights and dumping etc. it's all there, just like here.
"China" is rather vauge, indvidual factories have higher or lower standards, again it's your challenge to find them, establish standards and work with them to create the product your after. It takes work and $, sending them an exhaust to copy will yeild poor results. However,if you can sell enough exhausts, or whatever your making, the investment will pay off with volume off setting shipping, travel and development.

If you can only sell a few, it makes much more sense to make it here.

 

It's not so much the looks GM needs to compete with. The real problem are unions. Every major industry that has a union is financially in trouble. Only when the top 20% have incentive to continue to exceed will GM and other companies be able to compete. The union only serves to protect the unproductive.

Airlines - f'd by unions.
Auto makers - f'd by unions.
Grocery stores - f'd by unions.
Steel industry - f'd by unions.

See a pattern?