Blew engine today under extremely normal circumstances. not happy.EDITED
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I think if it was a issue with the tune, you would have a hole in the piston or the skirt damaged. You should change your oil more often than 5000 miles. Sounds to me like a rod bearing was going,rod bolt failure. Sorry to hear about your luck.
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this is not the first 05 evo to have a rod bearing leave
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When tuning these engines, you got to run them richer as the revs rise. Extra cooling from running increasingly rich offsets the extra heat generated from higher engine speeds. This keeps everything cool as possible (combustion chambers, piston tops, oil, valves, etc,.) If things get too hot, too often, the weakest link will eventually break. Especially on pump gas when higher temps are not apprecaited.
Having a lean(er) spot at the hp peak makes for nice dyno numbers but really sucks when it comes to longevity and durability.
-shiv
Having a lean(er) spot at the hp peak makes for nice dyno numbers but really sucks when it comes to longevity and durability.
-shiv
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got the flash two weeks ago, about 1900 miles since..Originally Posted by czp25
How long ago did you get your mail in flash?
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put the stock parts on and bring it to Originally Posted by anjapower
What are you planning to do at this point?
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The knocking started veerryyy softly at low RPM's and gradually got louder after 120 miles.. the motor blew finally at 2500 RPM. Been pushing 21.5-22 psi, tapering to just below 19 at redline. MBC is hooked up from the intake manifold -> MBC -> Wastegate actuator.. Turbo outlet and stock boost solenoid nipples are capped. Boost gauge line is hooked up to the fuel pressure regulator vaccum line. I installed both according to the DIY's on EvoM.Originally Posted by moto17
few questions though: What kind of A/F meter did you have and what were your AFR's during this tragedy? Second, what boost have you been pushing and is it stable, taper and/or spike etc? How do you have your MBC hooked up( there are at least two ways that I know of)? Where do you have your boost guage line hooked up?
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as it would not be what is controlling the boost.Lets wait to hear what went wrong before we begin to point fingers.
All vaccum hoses are still properly attatched.. and the high boost at low throttle input only started after i'd been hearing the knock for a bit.. Seems like it was a by-product.Originally Posted by turboDan
Did your hose pop off of your wastegate or anywhere between your wastegate and vacuum source,or did it have a hole in the hose.By the way you are describing what happened it seems that your wastgate actuator was not working at all,stuck in the closed position,high boost at very low throttle positions would create problems.Lets NOT start blaming a flash if using a MBC
as it would not be what is controlling the boost.Lets wait to hear what went wrong before we begin to point fingers.
I'm definitely not blaming Dynoflash here guys, too early to tell the cause.. I have more pics, posting them in a second..
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how rich do the Xflashes run up top Shiv? DO you aim for 11:1? And same question, are xflashes detectable by dealerships on warranty work (minus the passive boost solenoid element under the airbox?)
this isn't meant to be a flame war, just curious that's all. . .
this isn't meant to be a flame war, just curious that's all. . .
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Spun bearing... pretty much a bad outcome no matter what but shutting it down when you first heard the ticking would have probably saved a bit of money.
UPDATE: More carnage pics...
Front of the block, looking through the exh manifold

Oil pan. Front of the car is toward the bottom of the pic

Back of the block. Pic is sideways, top of the motor is on the right of the pic

Parts I pulled off of the plastic belly pan


Front of the block, looking through the exh manifold

Oil pan. Front of the car is toward the bottom of the pic

Back of the block. Pic is sideways, top of the motor is on the right of the pic

Parts I pulled off of the plastic belly pan


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shoulda had a wideband hooked up! does being cold have anything to do with leaning out the car?
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this isn't meant to be a flame war, just curious that's all. . .
By 7000rpm, i usually tune XFlashes to run in the high 10s on 91oct. Maybe low 11s if the car is fully modded with full exhaust, cams, etc,. Leaner than that and your just asking for trouble. Especially if you are trying to put timing into it. And even if you pull out timing to keep it from pinging, egts will be uncomfortably high. Now most people will never know this due to sensor lag. That is, you're not above 7000rpm for very long and the probe wont react quick enough. But if you stuck it on a proper dyno and loaded it up at 7000rpm for 5 seconds, you'd see EGTs go through the roof. I suppose you could also do this on the street if you ride your brakes hard enough under boost. But then you lose vacuum assist and things get dangerous (so don't do it!).Originally Posted by shivaswrath
how rich do the Xflashes run up top Shiv? DO you aim for 11:1? And same question, are xflashes detectable by dealerships on warranty work (minus the passive boost solenoid element under the airbox?)this isn't meant to be a flame war, just curious that's all. . .
Shiv
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the compensation tables in the ECU should address temp fluctuations but you would have to turn the boost down.Originally Posted by race17k
shoulda had a wideband hooked up! does being cold have anything to do with leaning out the car?
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I agree! running "normal" boost when its 20 degrees outside cant be good... Is that what you did?Originally Posted by anjapower
the compensation tables in the ECU should address temp fluctuations but you would have to turn the boost down.