Blew engine today under extremely normal circumstances. not happy.EDITED
Originally Posted by Stinkapuss
Why were you using 5W-30 instead of 10W-30?
Originally Posted by Jim_Patterson
The a/f coming off the dyno could be wrong, I know when i dynoed torquefreaks had a bad sniffer and it was saying some cars were in the 14s and 13s. Id say the only true source would be an onboard wideband.
Also I would never wait 5000miles to change my oil, its a high performance car, atleasts change it at 3000miles.
I wouldnt put the blame on dynoflash because i remember a car doing the same thing on shivs dyno.
Also I would never wait 5000miles to change my oil, its a high performance car, atleasts change it at 3000miles.
I wouldnt put the blame on dynoflash because i remember a car doing the same thing on shivs dyno.
5,000 is perfectly fine.
Originally Posted by vegasboy301
it was a spun rod bearing. kinda the same happend to me. the whole light noise under parcial throttle, and the BOOST CLIMBING FAST (i remember that vividly). good thing i STOPED as soon as it happend. it sounds like you kept going, causing it to get worse and worse... sorry to hear that bro
Stroker FTW!!
Seriously newbies shouldn't be posting in this thread when they have absolutely no freaking idea on what they are talking about. Sorry to hear about what happened, but you pay to play ... hopefully you get your car fixed and running.
IMHO, here are a few things that might have caused the issue:
1. Weak parts from the factory.
2. Faulty MBC or MBC connection as in this case you boost is entirely controller by you MBC and not your flash.
3. Having an Intake and running too lean because you MAF readings were wrong. This could have been happening before the flash and was probably exaggerated after the flash (leaner) unless it accounted for in the flash.
4. Fuel pump was faulty and wasn't able to keep up with the fuel requirements.
5. Low oil ... I wouldn't blame the oil but if you read the label the Extended Life oil is not reccomended for turbo charged motors.
This could have happened with any tuner's flash, almost all the tuners have blown customers engines at one point or another (do a search). I know people who are running Vishnu and Dynoflashes without any problems. Hope you are not going to make
pay for this, it wouldn't be fair to the owners who have legit problems and get denied.
IMHO, here are a few things that might have caused the issue:
1. Weak parts from the factory.
2. Faulty MBC or MBC connection as in this case you boost is entirely controller by you MBC and not your flash.
3. Having an Intake and running too lean because you MAF readings were wrong. This could have been happening before the flash and was probably exaggerated after the flash (leaner) unless it accounted for in the flash.
4. Fuel pump was faulty and wasn't able to keep up with the fuel requirements.
5. Low oil ... I wouldn't blame the oil but if you read the label the Extended Life oil is not reccomended for turbo charged motors.
This could have happened with any tuner's flash, almost all the tuners have blown customers engines at one point or another (do a search). I know people who are running Vishnu and Dynoflashes without any problems. Hope you are not going to make
pay for this, it wouldn't be fair to the owners who have legit problems and get denied.
Last edited by DaWorstPlaya; Mar 5, 2006 at 10:01 AM.
Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
Seriously newbies shouldn't be posting in this thread when they have absolutely no freaking idea on what they are talking about. Sorry to hear about what happened, but you pay to play ... hopefully you get your car fixed and running.
IMHO, here are a few things that might have caused the issue:
1. Weak parts from the factory.
2. Faulty MBC or MBC connection as in this case you boost is entirely controller by you MBC and not your flash.
3. Having an Intake and running too lean because you MAF readings were wrong. This could have been happening before the flash and was probably exaggerated after the flash (leaner) unless it accounted for in the flash.
4. Fuel pump was faulty and wasn't able to keep up with the fuel requirements.
This could have happened with any tuner's flash, almost all the tuners have blown customers engines at one point or another (do a search). I know people who are running Vishnu and Dynoflashes without any problems. Hope you are not going to make
pay for this, it wouldn't be fair to the owners who have legit problems and get denied.
IMHO, here are a few things that might have caused the issue:
1. Weak parts from the factory.
2. Faulty MBC or MBC connection as in this case you boost is entirely controller by you MBC and not your flash.
3. Having an Intake and running too lean because you MAF readings were wrong. This could have been happening before the flash and was probably exaggerated after the flash (leaner) unless it accounted for in the flash.
4. Fuel pump was faulty and wasn't able to keep up with the fuel requirements.
This could have happened with any tuner's flash, almost all the tuners have blown customers engines at one point or another (do a search). I know people who are running Vishnu and Dynoflashes without any problems. Hope you are not going to make
pay for this, it wouldn't be fair to the owners who have legit problems and get denied.I live in Cleveland which is cold as ****. I have Al's mail-in, intake, tbe and an MBC etc etc. It hasn't happened to me, and I have 40+k. So were probably looking at a factory problem.
They'll tell you what they told us when the engine blew at 3076 miles... "Warranty Restricted" but its worth a shot.
Second, this is why I love my Accusump... nothing beats a blast of oil in the engine before the first crank on startup, or a steady oil pressure no matter the condition... And no, I'm not a sales person for Accusump, but I love knowing that when I take that tight sweeper that even though my oil is sloshing around my engine is getting the same amount it would if I was parked and revving to the same RPMs. I realize it might not have been a lack of oil, but its nice to have the safety net.
Second, this is why I love my Accusump... nothing beats a blast of oil in the engine before the first crank on startup, or a steady oil pressure no matter the condition... And no, I'm not a sales person for Accusump, but I love knowing that when I take that tight sweeper that even though my oil is sloshing around my engine is getting the same amount it would if I was parked and revving to the same RPMs. I realize it might not have been a lack of oil, but its nice to have the safety net.
Please don't commit fraud by making Mitsu pay for this.
Also, this is starting to become a trend with the VIII's. It seems as though the rod bolts are stretching and allowing the bearings to spin or the rod bearings are out of spec from the factory.
Note to Everyone:
Please inspect your oil filter after every oil change. Look for metal shavings in your oil filter and take action immediately. I have learned the same expensive lession the thread starter has and I will adjust my maintenace routine accordingly.
Also, this is starting to become a trend with the VIII's. It seems as though the rod bolts are stretching and allowing the bearings to spin or the rod bearings are out of spec from the factory.
Note to Everyone:
Please inspect your oil filter after every oil change. Look for metal shavings in your oil filter and take action immediately. I have learned the same expensive lession the thread starter has and I will adjust my maintenace routine accordingly.
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^^Thats a pretty sound possibility. However I'm not 100% it was the main contributing factor, a lean A/F can cause detonation sure, but crankwalk? I dunno man, sounds like there was something lemon about it to begin with. Is there any physical damage to the rods or pistons themselves? Also, how did the conrod bolts look?
Originally Posted by nrcooled
Please don't commit fraud by making Mitsu pay for this.
Also, this is starting to become a trend with the VIII's. It seems as though the rod bolts are stretching and allowing the bearings to spin or the rod bearings are out of spec from the factory.
Note to Everyone:
Please inspect your oil filter after every oil change. Look for metal shavings in your oil filter and take action immediately. I have learned the same expensive lession the thread starter has and I will adjust my maintenace routine accordingly.
Also, this is starting to become a trend with the VIII's. It seems as though the rod bolts are stretching and allowing the bearings to spin or the rod bearings are out of spec from the factory.
Note to Everyone:
Please inspect your oil filter after every oil change. Look for metal shavings in your oil filter and take action immediately. I have learned the same expensive lession the thread starter has and I will adjust my maintenace routine accordingly.
You just said it yourself " It seems as though the rod bolts are stretching and allowing the bearings to spin or the rod bearings are out of spec from the factory."
Now how would this be Fraud if Mitsu is the one at fault?
First you post this:
And then you post this:
Are you telling me you dont think mitsubishi should be responsible for weak parts that cause an engine to blow at 15,000 miles due to their weak parts (if that is the cause) ????
In other words, you're saying that you would purchase an Evo if Mitsu told you your car could explode at 15,000 miles because they put in faulty parts? I don't think so.
If the cause is determined to NOT be weak parts, I would most definitely feel responsible. Due to the fact that there have been multiple 05's blow due to weak factory bearings, etc, I AM taking it to them to look at. I cannot tell the cause without tearing down the motor, and if I were to tear down the motor and find a bearing blew first mitsu would not warranty it then. The only way is to take it to them and find out (if they don't lie to you).
Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
1. Weak parts from the factory.
Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
Hope you are not going to make
pay for this, it wouldn't be fair to the owners who have legit problems and get denied.
pay for this, it wouldn't be fair to the owners who have legit problems and get denied.In other words, you're saying that you would purchase an Evo if Mitsu told you your car could explode at 15,000 miles because they put in faulty parts? I don't think so.
If the cause is determined to NOT be weak parts, I would most definitely feel responsible. Due to the fact that there have been multiple 05's blow due to weak factory bearings, etc, I AM taking it to them to look at. I cannot tell the cause without tearing down the motor, and if I were to tear down the motor and find a bearing blew first mitsu would not warranty it then. The only way is to take it to them and find out (if they don't lie to you).





I hope you get the car back up and running. Good luck!