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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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DC manifold and tapping EGT sensor

I plan on buying a DC manifold and tapping it for an EGT sensor on the runner #2 (2nd from the passenger side, correct?) about 2 to 3 inches away from the head.

All my searches say this is the best location! Is this correct?

My other question is: Is this a good manifold?

Seems better than stock from the dyno graphs and I don't plan on upgrading turbos at all. Searches don't bring up any bad comments about it. I would like to see a comparo between ported manifold and it, but have not - thus far.

The DC manifold makes sense based on my goals with the car: I plan on basic bolt-ons and upped boost with EBC and flash and calling it a day. I don't want to overdo things with this car. Just make it look decent, drive decent and easy to maintain. I don't want a tuning headache, I have no time for that. Everyone has different goals and I respect yours, so please do the same for me!

So, if this a bad choice, then I will lay off it, but any sound advice is greatly appreciated!

Thanks!
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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I like the way the dc sports header looks in the collector!

what dyno graphs are you refering too?
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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look at last post here:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...3&page=2&pp=15
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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The gains look impressive down low.

As to where to put the egt sensor, my advice is to have it installed where the weld will be good & the replacement of the sensor is easily accesible.

IMO where the egt probe isnt to important on such a short run of a primary pipe.

In my experience of high revving n/a & turbo engines, the closer you place the egt probe to the cylinder head, the sooner the probe & or the welding of the bung to the pipe will fail due to vibrations.

Good luck
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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The bung wont be welded on. The manifold will be tapped and the probe bolted on. Thats how I have done it in past DSM's...
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 11:37 PM
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I would suggest trying to put the sensor to the collector instead of the number 2 runner
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 06:22 AM
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Essentially you want to put the sensor on the hottest cylinder/runner, an overall temp reading is nice, but there is a loss in heat from the begining of the runner to the end of the collector. Find the hottest cylinder/runner (search) and place it 2-3" away from the flange.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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tvieira24 -If you read my first post, I said the same thing as you! I will ask the experts who I am buying the zietronix from as well and see what they say! Thanks
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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Tap a tubular manifold? I am not sure if this is a good idea. I have never tried it beacuse I just weld them on.

What is the manifold 16 gauge? doesn't seem thick enough for a tap to me.

Ben
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bbbwrx
Tap a tubular manifold? I am not sure if this is a good idea. I have never tried it beacuse I just weld them on.

What is the manifold 16 gauge? doesn't seem thick enough for a tap to me.

Ben
I can't comment on that, I've always tapped cast iron manifolds with a pretty thick sidewall. 16 gauge is about 1.25 mm thick and seeing how 90% of tubular manifolds on the market use 16 gauge, it'd probably be a good idea to weld a bung (to be safe). It'd prevent cracking around the actual tapped hole and would also give the egt sensor more to "bite" into.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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good point,guys. I guess I don't know enough about tap vs weld. I have only tapped DSM cast manifolds as well. Time to research...
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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http://redlinegauges.com/
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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Thanks for the link. I don't like the hose clamp style. I did see they had some weld-on bungs, though!
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Talked to DC Sports. The runner wall thickness is 0.065 inches = 1.651 mm. Zietronix needs at least 3mm to thread on. So, welding is the only solution.
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