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Is that amount of power a common gain? The reason I ask is my brother had a stock 9.8 with cams, exhaust and custom dynoflash @ 330 whp. He added a LICP, 10.5, and ebay 02 and was retuned by Al and made 335 whp at Topspeed (same dyno as the 330), same boost and actually a better AF curve.

 

That is strange...that definitely seems low for the gains i have seen. Was his first tune a little more aggressive?

 

Your turbo definitely made power, more so than the 10.5 housing and O2 housing. The latter definitely give you more power, but not as much as stated above. I will post some dyno numbers on the 20G-9 once I get my car tuned.

 

I don't think so, his AF ratio was actually in the 11's on the second custom tune instead of bumbling around in the 10's as per his first custom reflash.

 

People should probably stop worrying so much about peak differences and start worrying about area under the curve. That's why Dynojets are so useful, because you can take the runfiles, put them in WinPep, then overlay the curves to see the true difference. A 5whp peak gain can include a 20whp difference for 3000rpm. A 20whp gain can include 0 difference for 3000rpm.

 

I wana see results of an 05 w/ a Evo IX turbo. Since he came from an 03, the gains came from the hotside and o2 housing so theres not that much of a difference we can conclude until we see it on a 2005 Evo

 

one can gain ~20whp from a 10.5 hotside upgrade and bigger 02 housing. So the IX turbo is worth ~5whp, if that? Doesn't sound like it's worth it

 

i don't understand why you guys don't see that this is the culprit... he added fuel... this means he lost timing, this means he's not running optimally anymore. there is power left on the table... and this is nothing but INCONCLUSIVE evidence. everyone else rabbling about it makes it no more conclusive.

 

Thankyou!!!!!

I am sure once a real tune is on my car this will yield better results.

 

I have an '05 MR with a 10.5 and a larger O2 housing and am willing to bet that adding the 20 G 9 turbo with 5 blade will still add some hp and tq.

Actually I'm waiting for Jarod (Buschur) to send me one, then I'll post up the results!

 

DR MR, they are talking about the stock IX, not the 20g-IX. Of course your 20g-IX will add HP and TQ...

 

This was done on an AWD Dynapack.[/QUOTE]
Put it on a real "Dyno" like a Mustang Dyno or a Dyno Dynamics. No wonder you didn't feel the 25whp gain like the sheet said.

 

why? cuz your sponser's magic comp wheel that's not actually your sponser's making? it's already been proven that the 9 turbo makes more than the 8 turbo. look at gruppe-s dyno test. NOTHING else was changed and it was FLASHED so there are NO excueses and NO power LEFT ON THE TABLE.

i don't care what buschur says, safc + flash is a BAD idea, waht you run warr, safc and 100/alkie tune is NOT bad... but to put an safc on top of a flash to "fine tune" how is that a good idea? you should have a PRECISE flash from the beginning or don't bother flashing at all.

if you go safc, get the right sized injectors to get hte maximum benefits. if you're running lots more air flow than stock then 720s will get you that. if you're running below 350dynojet then 660s will likely settle you with timing.

until our friend here gets reflashed with a precise tune and zeroes out his safc it will be inconclusive. and after that fact if he decides to get a 100 map and an alkie map with the safc then i'm sure we'll be curious of those numbers too.

 

I agree wholeheartedly. I was waiting for someone to say this.