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Old May 12, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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Just so you guys know we are ordering an Idivia 02 housing today. I will test it next week against the SS 02 housing we are selling now. Also, we have a larger inlet flange for our downpipes here that we had built for some custom stuff we did. As I have said our normal downpipe flange is meant to be a perfect seal to the stock and common aftermarket 02 housings and do not have ANY restriction what-so-ever when mated to the stock, common aftermarket or even the 02 housings I have seen used with the GT35R kits on the market.

IF this Idivia 02 housing has a larger outlet on it and requires a larger flange at the downpipe that isn't a problem for us at all. We have flanges instock that will work or I can have them cut to use on our downpipes. You will just have to specify when you order. Remember, using a larger inlet flange on a downpipe for a stock or Ebay style 02 housing is going to gain absolutely NOTHING and only cause leaks.
Excellent! Please post results here, Dave!

If possible, you should try the Works one as well, since its considered the best.

Thanks!
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Old May 19, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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Old May 22, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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This post was rediculous as the inlet flange to the downpipe has no effect on exhaust flow when using any 02 housing that is currently popular.

I have sitting here on my desk the new Works and the Invidia 02 housings. Neither of these will work with any current downpipe being made by any popular manufacturer. I.E, myself, AMS, HKS, Greddy, Megan etc.

We do have flanges here that will work with these 02 housings. I will be testing the Works and Invidia 02 housings this week to see how they compare to the SS housing we use now.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
This post was rediculous as the inlet flange to the downpipe has no effect on exhaust flow when using any 02 housing that is currently popular.

I have sitting here on my desk the new Works and the Invidia 02 housings. Neither of these will work with any current downpipe being made by any popular manufacturer. I.E, myself, AMS, HKS, Greddy, Megan etc.

We do have flanges here that will work with these 02 housings. I will be testing the Works and Invidia 02 housings this week to see how they compare to the SS housing we use now.
Dave - care to ellaborate why they won't work, maybe with some pictures, even? I find this hard to believe/understand. Are you saying its too big? Mine seems to fit decent on the DC Sports downpipe...I will try to snap a pic tomorrow! Thanks!
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Old May 22, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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the works one won't work with any other dp cuz they use a full size gasket but i think the invidia uses a sup thin gasket that just cones into the top of most dps.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 06:45 AM
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I do not care to elaborate. I will test them though.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
This post was rediculous as the inlet flange to the downpipe has no effect on exhaust flow when using any 02 housing that is currently popular.

I have sitting here on my desk the new Works and the Invidia 02 housings. Neither of these will work with any current downpipe being made by any popular manufacturer. I.E, myself, AMS, HKS, Greddy, Megan etc.

We do have flanges here that will work with these 02 housings. I will be testing the Works and Invidia 02 housings this week to see how they compare to the SS housing we use now.

Cant wait to see the results.

I think you have to admit those O2 housings are huge. We just have to wait and see how they perform. Are you going to use the donut gasket on the Works O2 housing or us a flat flange with a 3 1/16" opening. My guess is yes, because the spherical flange is huge on the Works Dp, and may be hard to source.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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I dont think he wants to elaborate because it discredits his downpipe again in the process. The works o2 is a 3 inch flange. Connected to a works downpipe that is also a 3 inch flange = 3 inch exhaust. The buscher stuff is all shrinking to fit whatever flanges they need to fit. Ya he can "throw new flanges on" but why not sell a 3 inch if your claiming 3 inch? Your setup isnt full 3inch turbo back. PERIOD.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Until we find out if the "true" 3" 02 and flanged 3" DP is in fact better in terms of making power, stop whining. Remember, Forced Performance so no gain at 27psi/540whp on a GT30 by switching to a 3" 02 over their 2.5 02.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 06:31 AM
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20psiMR, is there something wrong with you? Are you able to read and see reasoning? Our exhaust system is a true full 3", if you can't see that then you have some serious issues. The outlet of any 02 housing, other than works and invidia, which both JUST became available recently, is no larger than 2.5". Our flange is meant to work with every other produced 02 housing built for the EVO and FIT CORRECTLY TO THEM. Directly after the flange it goes to 3", the 3" tubing is welded directly to this machined flanged that is made to fit to and seal to all these other 02 housings built, including the stock one. There is ABSOLUTELY NO RESTRICTION THERE AS THE FLANGE WE USE IS LARGER THAN THE STOCK AND ALL OTHER AFTERMARKET O2 HOUSING OUTLETS. Making our downpipe inlet flange 3" would do nothing but cause leaks and horrible fitment on EVERY OTHER 02 HOUSING USED, except for the Works and Indivias. That would make no sense, well it might to YOU.

On top of this NOBODY has proven yet whether the Works or Invidia 02 housings will even increase power levels. I am having a hard time believing that ONE of those two are going to do anything but kill power. We will see.

Seeing as how EVO's have been as fast as 9.90's with a 2.5" 02 housing on them and made in excess of 650 whp I'd have to say it is safe to say the 2.5" 02 housings work pretty damn good.

Until you have something intelligent to say you should keep you lame comments to yourself.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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I think in time, once tested, the non chambered large single cavity O2 housings will disrupt the airflow so much that it will sacrafice spool and likely see no gains, if not lose power.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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dave. pm,ed
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Old May 24, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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it would be nice to here works side to this. as they have yet to test a 400+ part and state a gain. but people see gains with other mods then including the o2. thanks to dave for taking his free time to fix that problem. thanks dave.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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We are going to test this stuff on Trent's car tomorrow. It is a 320 whp EVO8 that has gone a best of 11.5 at 119 mph on race gas.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 20psiMR
Want something intelligent? You said it yourself all in one paragraph, ITS NOT 3 INCH! You taper down, whether its to work with stock or your o2 or whoevers, its not 3 inch. Thats what I said, and you confirmed. Thanks again. Not saying that it makes a damn difference horsepower wise. Im just sick of people saying our **** is best blah blah, our **** is 3 inch blah blah, and they LIE. Its all sales bull****. Just be honest dude, thats all Im asking. Flame me all you want Dave, you screwed yourself on this deal with your boy Al's coke can test.
So youre saying its not 3" because the flange is not 3"...
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