And the survey says?!!

 

yea still waiting....

 

Works took out the seperator because its allready separated off the turbo. So technically it would still be there when you bolted the o2 up, it just doesnt continue the seperation into the o2. Saw a post on that a while back.

Triny, they are backordered. ANd your exactly right, thats probably why they arent pushing them hehe. The word is they should have more in mid june. Since they are forged, they cant just mock em up in house. They have to outsource, hence supply being low and the price being high. Im also curious to see the invidia numbers, cant argue with the same piece and 200 less.

 

You post shows your lack of knowledge on how a turbo works. If there was no separation at the hotside, there would be no boost regulation.

The O2 wastegate and exhaust chamber separation is there for a reason. If you think it was a cheaper design by the factory to cast in separated chambers in the factory O2, you are way wrong.

By the Works threads, they gained 15whp, 6 hours later in a difference temperature and unknown boost change (possibly higher).

From Buschur's own dyno testing, the $200 Megan Racing type unit WITH chambers made 15whp on his LOW READING dyno.

It's the people's money, they can do the math.

 

Your post shows lack of reading comprehension. I never said the seperation doesnt need to be there. I was just quoteing a post by works that said the separation was allready ON the hotside, so thats why they didnt put it into the o2 houseing.

 

Sounds like your feelings are hurt because you paid 3 times the cost of a dynoproven unit for the same results. It is evident you are a Works "tool".

If there was no seperation, it would need an external wastegate.

Trying to have an intelligent conversation about flow dynamics with someone that does not know how a turbo works is very taxing.

 

Leet MS Paint skillz inc....this is pic of 10.5 hotside....

 

Mr. Leet spelling skillz,

Congratulations, you are on your way to learning the differences between a n/t Integra and a sophisticated high-tech Mitsubishi supercar starting from turbo basics. That flapper hole is the wastegate, the lower hole is post turbine blades. Opening the top hole regulates the turbine spin and hence the boost level.

Just as Works stated, there is no low end difference. You know why? because it is a big empty cavity and a flow dynamics nightmare. WG bypass gasses bouncing against the walls of the housing and bouncing off turbine pulsed exhaust gasses. A lackluster design due to the omission of the separation chamber that is supposed to be there to smooth and direct exhaust flow.

We will see in independent testing similar results to BR's omission of the WG flapper and use of an external WG instead. Slow spool and small to no gains. If it ain't broke, then don't fix it.

Due to the cost of the cast Works units, they would not admit poor design if they knew, because they need to recoup the design costs at least and not take a loss on the project.

 

Im totally with you. I never said the seperation DOESNT need to be there. I was just re-iterating what I read in a works post about their housing. It somehow turned into me saying there was no need for seperation. Im waiting for testing just as everyone else is. I want to put the best possible parts on my car that I can. Also, dont assume things about peoples previous cars. Its almost a rarity nowadays to find a non turbo integra....Just because I bought a car 8 years ago that started off naturally aspirated doesnt mean I dont know turbo basics =P

 

damn it does everyone just like to hear themselves talk now? ****in' get the damn facts straight.

if there is no seperation you don't need an external wastegate. externally wasting has nothing to do with whether the housing is divided or not.

the ebay housings weren't all divided, in fact the megan ones, possibly in the early stage were only divided at the mating flange... and were undivided within.

i already explained why the dividing is good or possibly unnecessary.

 

I am sure the guy means if there was no separation "in the turbo hotside" it would need an external wastegate, which makes sense.

 

thats what i read.

 

uhm... if there was no wall on the hot side there would still be a wastegate flapper releasing the exhaust .... i'm not understanding why there would be a need for an external gate at that point....

 

If there was no wall on the hotside, there would be NO wastegate at all. Hence, no flapper.

 

Enough arm chair engineering. Lets keep this discussion civil and free of clutter. Results will be made available soon enough by Mr. Buschur; a man who has truly earned my respect through his tireless testing and honest analysis.