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Old May 13, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Titanium turbo manifold?

Does anyone make a titanium turbo manifold? I have the greddy Ti catback and was looking into how much Ti stuff thier is out there for the evo. thanks!
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Old May 13, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Try contacting A-Spec.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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If you are serious I can do that for you in the shop. I hope you don't care about what it will cost.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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I checked out A-spec they got alot of high end stuff.. the billit cosworth crank shaft is just insane! No price though i wonder how much it is lol ...
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Old May 13, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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If your close to Dallas, TX or want one bad enough to drive there, I can hook you up with someone who made his own Ti headers for his USCC winning supercharged V6'd MR2. His work is outstanding, and he's even doing work for not just cars, but ATVs and the such now too.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ToMuchBoost
I checked out A-spec they got alot of high end stuff.. the billit cosworth crank shaft is just insane! No price though i wonder how much it is lol ...
if you have to ask, you can't afford it!
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Old May 13, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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if you have to ask, you can't afford it!
haha yeah i know! its probly as much as the ams shortblock iam getting or more ....
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Old May 13, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Does anyone make a titanium turbo manifold? I have the greddy Ti catback and was looking into how much Ti stuff thier is out there for the evo. thanks!
The only Titanium turbo manifold you are ever going to find will be a true 100% put together craftman product. I doubt there is any shop building any header from a machine.

Mostlikely is put together in little sections/pieces.

Just my .2c

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Old May 14, 2006 | 01:34 AM
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Titanium is not reccomended for turbo applications. It's lightweight, yes, but at exhaust temperature, Titanium isn't really that strong. The "titanium" you hear in turbo turbine wheels is NOT titanium, but is titanium aluminide, which is not easily bent for headers.

If you want lighter headers, try Inconel. It's cheaper than titanium and, at exhaust gas temperatures, is stronger than both titanium and stainless steel.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 01:40 AM
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who caries inconnel tubing?
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Old May 14, 2006 | 03:39 AM
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burns stainless carries inconel, by it is crazy expensive... also better find the best fabricator you can to fab it for you, as overheating the metal is very common amongst noobs that claim they can fab. worse part is... if you don't know about welding... you probably wouldn't even notice and might think they did a good job, but to the trained eye, that sort of stuff sticks out like a sore thumb.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 03:44 AM
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lets see some Ti manifold pics
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Old May 14, 2006 | 11:09 AM
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mmm as i thought... prohibitively expensive. for what it's worth, f1 manifolds are made of inconnel.

aspec does have an 8 pound ti mani i've seen it. how is the design? it looks a bit like the ebay style manifolds. how's the craftsmanship it's 100% hand made. the welds are many times blue (i'm not familiar with the color temping of ti). the flanges have gone through many revisions and is extra thick to prevent warping. the flange is already gasket matched.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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So what is the benefit for this? I am curious what the differences are between the other materials and why it is worth the money to use these expensive materials for a header.

Another similar thought I had in thinking about this is that headers don't seem to really offer much over the stock manifold (that dyno testing has shown) for the associated cost (without using Ti, etc).
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Old May 14, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SaabTuner
Titanium is not reccomended for turbo applications. It's lightweight, yes, but at exhaust temperature, Titanium isn't really that strong. The "titanium" you hear in turbo turbine wheels is NOT titanium, but is titanium aluminide, which is not easily bent for headers.

If you want lighter headers, try Inconel. It's cheaper than titanium and, at exhaust gas temperatures, is stronger than both titanium and stainless steel.
Sorry, I was in a stupor at the time... SaabTuner is absolutely correct! The first time you lean out the mixture and run much over 1700 degrees, you may also induce Alpha-case (sp?). Basically oxidation of your manifold material. Read not good. Inconel would be the way to go, but talk about cost prohibitive!
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