Good turbo w/o sacrificing spool
The ATP kit is a very good "bang for the buck" kit as it's relatively inexpensive and does provide substantial gains. If you're looking for an install special with dyno-tuning, etc. give us a ring. 
Thanks,
Gary
Gruppe-S
Thanks,
Gary
Gruppe-S
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Originally Posted by Gruppe-S
The ATP kit is a very good "bang for the buck" kit as it's relatively inexpensive and does provide substantial gains. If you're looking for an install special with dyno-tuning, etc. give us a ring.
Thanks,
Gary
Gruppe-S
Thanks,
Gary
Gruppe-S
Gary, did you see my question back a page? Was on close on the boost pressures?
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Originally Posted by Gruppe-S
The ATP kit is a very good "bang for the buck" kit as it's relatively inexpensive and does provide substantial gains.
Originally Posted by evoone
how about a ride? i've read the atp kit sucks, but then they could be fanboys for other kits. i'd like to see for myself. i like atp because its stealthy and thats what you need in cali.
Originally Posted by scorke
Those numbers sound about right, take away 70 hp or so and about 30 ft lbs of tq and you have 350/330 which seems to be about what atp kits make on pump......
Scorke
Scorke
. this car already made 342 whp and 330 tq, on a stock turbo! Soooooooo spend 4k on an atp 3034 kit and make 7 hp an no tq. on pump gas. again I have a smaller turbo (a 3071) and with 4 gallons of 100 octane (just for dyno purposes) mixed with 9 gallons of 91, my smaller turbo made 380whp + and 320tq. The 3034 is capable of high 400's not 350. On pump gas maybe 400whp!here is what an atp kit is capable of http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...C902781B1E.htm
Last edited by cnoevo8; Jun 28, 2006 at 09:09 PM.
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Originally Posted by cnoevo8
I beg to differ . this car already made 342 whp and 330 tq, on a stock turbo! Soooooooo spend 4k on an atp 3034 kit and make 7 hp an no tq. on pump gas. again I have a smaller turbo (a 3071) and with 4 gallons of 100 octane (just for dyno purposes) mixed with 9 gallons of 91, my smaller turbo made 380whp + and 320tq. The 3034 is capable of high 400's not 350. On pump gas maybe 400whp!
here is what an atp kit is capable of http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...C902781B1E.htm
. this car already made 342 whp and 330 tq, on a stock turbo! Soooooooo spend 4k on an atp 3034 kit and make 7 hp an no tq. on pump gas. again I have a smaller turbo (a 3071) and with 4 gallons of 100 octane (just for dyno purposes) mixed with 9 gallons of 91, my smaller turbo made 380whp + and 320tq. The 3034 is capable of high 400's not 350. On pump gas maybe 400whp!here is what an atp kit is capable of http://videos.streetfire.net/categor...C902781B1E.htm
The 380 number was at how much boost?
Who cares, even if his super duper ATP kit made 380 whp, 380whp and 320 tq is flat out poor from any aftermarket turbo on anything but pump gas......even on pump gas that tq number is low, indicating it spools slow.
On my turbo with a housing that actually works!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I made 380 360 at 20 psi on pump(93). The 3034 is capable of whatever power it has put out, if anyone ever saw a number close to 400whp out of an atp kit on pump gas why the hell isnt the whole of evom running them. There kits only cost what, 2600 or so, do you think people on here spend 4k on a turbo kit because it looks prettier? NO. We buy other turbokits because they WORK, and MAKE POWER.
I honestly do not know how you could be satisfied with 320 ftlbs of tq on a semi race gas tune.....
Scorke
On my turbo with a housing that actually works!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I made 380 360 at 20 psi on pump(93). The 3034 is capable of whatever power it has put out, if anyone ever saw a number close to 400whp out of an atp kit on pump gas why the hell isnt the whole of evom running them. There kits only cost what, 2600 or so, do you think people on here spend 4k on a turbo kit because it looks prettier? NO. We buy other turbokits because they WORK, and MAKE POWER.
I honestly do not know how you could be satisfied with 320 ftlbs of tq on a semi race gas tune.....
Scorke
Cnoevo, what boost was that run made at and on what dyno. Do not forget that the guy who originally started this thread wanted good spool, at what RPMS do you make peak boost? From what I have read/understood from people on here tha ATP's are quite laggy...
Scorke
Scorke
Originally Posted by Kyle R
Ok, so I've had the kit on for a while and am finally getting the car tuned a little bit better than before. I switched over to the AEM EMS and converted to MAP sensor so the driveability is much better but still has a few hiccups that I'm trying to work out. I may just have someone else tune it on the dyno shortly. I did one dyno run with it in really poor tune which was much less than spectacular number wise. I finally have some data for spoolup, and it is laggy but I can live with that for now. I have the cam gears adjusted to -4/I and -2/E currently, this log might be from when I had it set at -3/-3 though. the AFR drops to about 10.5 once it reaches full boost.
Giving full throttle starting from 3300 rpms:
3500 - .2psi
4000 - 2.2
4500 - 5.1
5000 - 10.5
5500 - 19.7
6000 - 22.1
6500 - 23
8000 - 23
Giving full throttle starting from 3300 rpms:
3500 - .2psi
4000 - 2.2
4500 - 5.1
5000 - 10.5
5500 - 19.7
6000 - 22.1
6500 - 23
8000 - 23
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For a lower cost alterantive, a good old fashion 50 trim with A Shearer Fabrication equal length header would spool pretty quick, and make at least 400 whp on straight 93 with cams. Then when you feel the need to go big, just swap the turbo. The thing everyone has to realize about spool is even though a larger turbo isn't going to make full boost right away, the larger turbo is going to be making either the same, or more power than the stocker with less boost. It's just the *** dyno lies to you.