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Old Oct 24, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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hey guys just installed my cams- 272's all around. was just wondering how much advance and retard i should be running on the intake and exhaust. im running +2 intake and -2 exhaust right now.according to my mitsulogger im getting a little knock in the middle from 3500-4500 from 4-5 counts then lots of 3's to 5600 tell me what u guys think.im running a flash, but its not set up for the cams just all the bolt on stuff.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Looks like you started knocking because of rolling into the throttle slowly.

Plus it seems you're running the dreaded sea of 8* at peak torque.. Might want to lower timing advance there.

I'm sure some experts will chime in though..
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 09:45 AM
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I find if I roll onto the throttle I do get knock, It really takes time to get those part throttle transitions dialed in so you get a smooth change.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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You might want to start your pulls at 2000 rpm.

Do another 3rd gear pull and mash the pedal @ 2k rpm to redline.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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what

what application are you using for logging? curious
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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im using mitsulogger v1 by malibu jack.great stuff learning to use it and using it often.
changed the settings on the cam gears i had it really messed up(+2intake_-2exhaust). so now im running(-1intake_+1exhaust) according to a article i read on evo m by (tedb-another evo m guru)the car seems to be running alot better. i had to adjust the profec b to get the 22psi im tuned for.the car idles a little higher now but not too bad.
thoughts and comments welcome and thanks for the replys and info as always
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by purevibez
im using mitsulogger v1 by malibu jack.great stuff learning to use it and using it often.
changed the settings on the cam gears i had it really messed up(+2intake_-2exhaust). so now im running(-1intake_+1exhaust) according to a article i read on evo m by (tedb-another evo m guru)the car seems to be running alot better. i had to adjust the profec b to get the 22psi im tuned for.the car idles a little higher now but not too bad.
thoughts and comments welcome and thanks for the replys and info as always
Are you using EcuFlash to tune? If so you can tune to 1-3 counts of knock
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:32 PM
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Something really wrong, the timing to redline does: 12, 12, 14, 14, -14, -14, 14, ....

So in one log point the timing theoretically drops 28* timing
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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I figured that -14 was a logging glitch.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Do a search on Mitsulogger.

I think I've read a thread where random -14 values populate the log.

I think MalibuJack is looking into that.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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It is a glitch, I have a fix for it that will be posted tonight...

Its caused when requests return with an echo only.. This can happen for any of the requests, but seems to be most obvious with the Timing as it clearly stands out as "odd" when it happens.

This is actually a common problem with all loggers, occasionally you don't get all your data and how you handle that is the key.. Unfortunately I overlooked that it was even possible to get an echo only, but at the speed it logs, its statistically possible now..
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Yep I just verified the new version of the program fixed the dropouts..
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 05:54 PM
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yeah using ecuflash and working with a map i got from a vendor before the cams. im also looking at the map c6c6ch3vo posted on aktivematrix. havent quite figured out how to tune it to try it in my car im not running meth inj. he was tuned for it. so comparing a few rom and trying to road tune.lots of work but well worth it.thanks to jack and c6 for the constant help and answers.+1 for everyones help.
appreciate it lots guys
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Something really wrong, the timing to redline does: 12, 12, 14, 14, -14, -14, 14, ....

So in one log point the timing theoretically drops 28* timing
Sorry, well nown glitch for 1 week and fixed allready - Iv'e been out of the loop straining my back lifting a tranny


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.thanks to jack and c6 for the constant help and answers.+1
Your welcome, but I honestly should not be recognized as helpful. Hell, my car has been in the air for 2 weeks and hopefully I will figure out how the tranny will fit back

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