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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Poor choice of nozzle by kit manufacturer. Looks brass also

Best way I think is to use the stainless ones with threads on both ends. The nozzle holder threads on the other side is loctite 271 in there, nozzle wont come off holder no matter what you try

Hope everything goes well with rebuild

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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That;s why I'm a fan of race fuel.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by fatbastard
and this would be a non-issue when using Aquamist products... which might seem to be a little too expenisve, but cheaper than this failure and they do have much better failsafes "across the board"

fwiw, aquamist is working on a failsafe add on box that can be used with any water/meth/alch injection system... but the real beauty of the Aquamist system is the parts and the thought that went into them... it is no mystery why WRC teams chose Aquamist as their supplier before the ultimate banning of water injection.

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You are right, but to me there is no real Fail safe to this to a Nozzle coming loose. Its a quality control with the parts used. I know that Cooling mist is a great company and you are right that most if not all Rally teams used this until the banning.


My goal is not to Scare people of Alky Injection, i think its a great, and very cheap alternative to Race gas that you could use every day. Like i said i still plan on using this in my setup... maybe no this exact kit. but alky in general.


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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TKMotorsports
That;s why I'm a fan of race fuel.

+1............I love my 110 turbo blue.....$4.50/gallon.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TKMotorsports
That;s why I'm a fan of race fuel.


ya.... but every day? And risk my sensors.... And my wallet?
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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ya.... but every day? And risk my sensors.... And my wallet?
yea, your wallet really loves you now doesn't it.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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I think the quote about rally cars using it, was pointing out that Aquamist parts are designed better.

I built an Aquamist kit for my old Eclipse. I haven't seen any of these kits by CoolingMist, etc, but do those nozzles thread from the inside of the pipe? If so, that's just a very bad design.

Aquamist nozzles thread in from the outside of the pipe, so you would never be able to suck a nozzle into the IC pipe or intake.


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EDIT: Here is a picture that shows Aquamist nozzles:
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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I definitely like the look of those aquamist nozzles.

One thing you could do is use something similar to the trick with DSMLink for nos control. use the fuel pressure solenoid (or any other switching solenoid) to keep boost at wastegate pressure (or use a second MBC for pressure 1), then hook up the coolingmist pressure sensor that lights the LEDs to tell you if you have a clog (or that your meth is on).

So, if you have pressure, the sensor then then grounds your LEDs to light, as well as the solenoid. This, in turn, raises your boost to alky level. It would be a little touchy unless you had a really sensitive sensor, but even if you had it switch the boost over just after your injection came on the worst that could happen is a couple of counts of knock. You would also realize that something was wrong with the system, back off and see that your nozzle was about to get eaten by your motor!



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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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^^ Hi..I, as you, have been using that trick as well with DSMLink. Good tip!
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooldyou
lol, ya i Really dont care that at i blew the motor to be honest, ya the down time sucks. But whatever its winter anyways. I'm just thinking of building a 2.0 or going with a 4g64. .

any input
I think if I was going to build the bottom end I would probably go all the way and do a 2.3. I like to road race so that just appeal to me (big torque).
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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RACE GAS IS ...nice but meth is has it's perks too

..so the nozzle came off into the intake tract? i thought the nozzle came out into the engine bay...damn...you're right...no failsafe for that ...however...

1. locktite
2. teflon tape
3. prayers
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fostytou
I definitely like the look of those aquamist nozzles.
the aquamist nozzles are real compact, i mounted mine inside the intake pipe

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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wow. sorry to see that happen to you bud. Best of luck with the rebuild.
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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yea, your wallet really loves you now doesn't it.
I dont know if how often you drive, but this car is my Daily Driver ( DD ) My would i put 109 in my car every day.... to drive to work?...... lets do some math......



My evo Take about 10 gallons TOPS at the pump i never run it on the Oragne Death Light. .....


Shell 93 at my local gas station, the only one that i go too.... is 2.55

2.55 x 10 = 25.50 to fill my tank..... I fill up once a week lets say... So thats...

25.50 x 52 = 1326 A YEAR on gas...... ALONE just to drive my Car.....


If we do Your Suggestion.... of " Use Race Gas" Who ever suggested Turbo Blue 110... @ 4.50 a gallon... Which is NOT wht it cost up here.... Race gas a good 7.50 a gallon... But for numbers sake.. well use you 4.50



4.50 x 10 = $ 45 a fill up..... using my same very un realistic... once a week fill up..... your talking....


45 x 52 = 2340 A YEAR........


these numbers are the farthest thing from the truth... but it puts it into perspective for you



Why would i spend this much a year on gas to Fill up... when i could easily with that extra 1000 that i would save with 93 octane. ....buy a nice SMC or Cooling Mist or Aqua mist kit with every single fail safe mentionable.... After 1 year of use. it would pay for itself.....



So for me to spend my money on Race gas and race gas only is not likely..... Thats why me... and most of the meth users make our choice....

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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by fostytou
You would also realize that something was wrong with the system, back off and see that your nozzle was about to get eaten by your motor!
Your right, But in my Setup, my sensor was Just prior my Throttle body, so it was alittle unlikely for me to Realize it before my nozzle got eaten.... once it got lost... it was lost. for good.
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