Sorry Jarrod, didn't see it in the pics on your website. Saw it in the description though.

 

No worries!

 

Ok first of all, the original 3065 was developed to bolt right up to a stock DSM mani...am I wrong about that? You told me nothing in this paragraph I don't already know ...Yes you are correct about the 3065 purpose BUT it was also ORIGINALY designed as a bolt on turbo to a stock DSM exhaust manifold. Now tell me where I am wrong....I would be willing to bet this log manifold is a bit easier and cheaper to build than the tubular manifold.

 

Oh thanks bud lol...I typed the above before I read your post because I was so excited that someone was calling me out on something I supposedly did not know lol....See shocker...there ya go. But thanks for the info I already knew

 

My bad, noob here...thought i had it down. Would spool up be any faster w/a tubular mani?

 

isn't ams expensive just cuz?

 

Ok, since buschur has a kit for 3000 and it comes with MOST of the stuff you need AMS has a kit with everything you need for 4500, then why advertise a turbo kit @3000 if it is not a complete kit, or am I missing something here.

 

What is our kit missing exactly?

 

Here, this is for those too lazy to do their own research to see the differences in the kits/too blind to see why one costs more than the other...

AMS 35R kit:

AMS 304 SS Thick Wall Tubular header
Garrett GT35R True Dual Ball Bearing Turbocharger
SS 3" Tubular O2 housing
SS 3" Downpipe
Tial 38mm Wastegate (Slip Fit Recirculated Dump)
High Flow Slim Line Fan
Lightweight Polished Aluminum Intake Pipe with K&N Filter
Lightweight Polished Aluminum Lower Intercooler Pipe
Braided Stainless Oil Feed Line
Oil Return & Coolant Lines
All necessary hardware and gaskets

Buschur 35R kit:

Ball Bearing GT35R Turbocharger
BR Produced Cast Exhaust Manifold (from NI-Resist material)
TiAL 44mm External Wastegate
Stainless Steel O2 Housing
Replacement Low Profile Cooling Fan
Oil Feed Line
Oil Return Line
Misc. Fittings
Hardware
Gaskets Note: Our kit utilizes the factory water lines.

Look at the differences... you know have the reason for the price difference.

 

As I mentioned.... our kit is available with the tubular manifold. The price would then be $3895 and it would then come with the downpipe. The AMS 35R kit is $4689.95. We would assume if you are buying a turbo kit you would already have a downpipe. The reason they offer one with their kit is im guessing the placement of the turbo is different and requires it. That is why we include one with our tubular manifold turbo kits.

As for the dump.... putting a dump in isnt really a big deal and it really doesnt take more money to do so. We do not offer it with our kit as room is limited and we recommend them to be open.

Our turbo kit comes with a turbo outlet pipe that adapts to our lower IC pipe as well as other companies. Aluminum does absorb heat BTW.

Why do you need coolant lines if you can re-use the ones you currently have. It keeps costs down for both the shop and the customer. Its like ordering a fresh pizza when you have a left over from the night before in the fridge. Its still good. Why not eat it?

Something you did not point out is the wastegates used. We use a TiAL 44mm w/g instead of the 38mm. The 44mm retails for $535 compared to $335 for the 38mm.

Also they do coat their manifold. We do offer coating. The price is $150. Their's is included.

We get along with AMS very well as everyone knows and each person has their preference. I just wanted to point out a few other things. If there was only one shop manufacturing and selling parts the car industry would be a pretty boring place.

 

I love this line

 

I didn't point out the fact that you guys use a 44mm compared to their 38mm because that wouldn't be a reason why their kit costs more.

All I did was highlight the obvious.

I didn't know you guys included the turbo outlet pipe to adapt to the LICP (other brands, anyways). That'll save me money (if I go the 35R route, which I prefer your kit).

 

Is your tubular mani an option on the FP3065 kit also, and how much better would spool up be??

 

I just saw this thread.. Nice

 

I see a 3065 kit in my near future....thanks Jrod!