I don't care if your wife or even your minor children can drive your car. That only means that they are also tolerant of the undriveability of your modified car. Also, you do protest too much... here is the list of your mods and your 1/4 times:

10.5 hotside
Buschur intake
RMR/HKS exhaust
Hallman MBC
Buschur UICP
Buschur Deluxe FMIC
GSC 272/264 cams
DC Sports Manifold
Ebay/Buschur O2 housing
Dynoflash
Cusco Twin Disc.

11.68@119mph 26psi, 50/50 110/92

Winter Mods:
Megan Coilovers
Buschur Front Motor Mount
SMC Alky Kit
ARP headstuds
Zeitronix ZT2
GSC 280/280 Cams

This might come as a surprise to you, but the vast majority of people out there (like probably 99.99%) do not drive a modified car, let alone a car capable of 11.68 sec. 1/4 mile times.. Oh yeah, most people also cannot possibly drive a car well enough to get the above stated 1/4 mile times and trap speeds.

I hope I am the guy who makes people think a little bit before they go and modify their car without knowledge of the unintended consequences. What you fail to understand is that people are different and you are part of a small minority of hard core enthusiasts who do not mind the trade off. I'm not a scaredy cat or a kneejerk anti modification nut. My previous EVO VIII was very extensively modified and I've been modifying cars for the last 10 or more years. The guy who origibally posed the question is obviously someone who is not a knowledgeable car nut. All he asked is if his clutch is going bad. Now, why would a guy like that need to up grade his clutch to a high performancer, off/on switch? I think he should know the possible repercussions of his actions. Oh yeah, and once you modify your car much past a reflash, you do affect driveability and comfort. You might not care about the negative changes that come about as a result of extyensive modifications, but others might.

 

Thanks for quoting my sig, I forgot that was under there

Seriously though, if you think the Cusco/Exedy clutch is a "on/off" switch then maybe you should look into getting an automatic. The clutch in my '87 Civic is tougher to operate then my Evo. I never said its like stock but trust me its nowhere near a on/off switch. Plus there are many aftermarket clutches out there that do drive like stock while still offering some extra holding power. Thing the original poster needs to figure out is if he is going to mod the car in the future, if so it wouldnt make sense to put a stocker back in when he is going to have to upgrade it in the future.

 

Warr do you have kids? I hope not, if you were my parent, I'd be in jail by now, get my drift.

 

Thanks alot, guys, i think i know what i should do

 

hahhhahaha

 

You're speaking from one experience...all the people that have driven my car say it's only a little stiffer than the evo clutch...i can do stop and go traffic with no problems...it's like warm porridge ....not hot not cold...just right...
Learn to adjust properly or adjust your seat...something...exedy is an easy race clutch. Please don't bash on it...

it grabs like a horny monkey!

 

I'm not bashing on the Exedy.l I wish all you guys would not take it so personanlly . All I'm saying is that the racing clutches are considerably different from the stock clutches and for most people they will be much harder to operate. Like I said before, it's not only the added stiffness, but the off/on switch-like operation. Hey, I had it in my car and I now have a HD Exedy single plate clutch in my Miata... Guys, I'm not bashing the clutches. I'm just telling the truth so the guy who might consider one of the hard-grabbing, racing clutches will have a better idea of what he might expect in addition to the extra grabbing power and torque handling. Like it or not, there is a trade off. Believe it, if those clutches were as easy to drive as the OEM stock clutch, would put them in the EVOs to make sure that there would be less complaints about burned clutches. BTW, if you looked at your cooked stock clutch you might have noticed that the clutch disk itself was not worn out but rather that it became gazed along with the flywheel. The stock clutch it quite good enough, what fails in the m is the pressure plate. took the calculated risk to use the softer springs over the harder, more power holding clutch they could have used. The reason for that is that the public would not buy the EVO if it was as hard to drive in stock form as one with a racing clutch. BTW, look again at the box and paperwork that came with your Exedy twin disk. It says right there "Racing Clutch"

 

Get em Warr...

I know a lot of folks bust on you for being too harsh with folks, but I'll be damed if your posts don't give me a good laugh.

Props for saying exactly what I was thinking

 

Not trying to be an *** or anything like that, but why would you or Warrtalon find it so difficult to believe that a person who drives an EVO would not know the symptoms of a failing clutch? Just because a person drives an EVO it does not mean they are going to know what the symptoms of a failing clutch are... I've been driving for nearly 50 years and in all my time I've only had clutch issues with 3 cars and two vans. The cars were a Saab Sonnett, an MG Midget. and An EVO VIII. The clutches in the Saab and the MG failed due to other causes than a worn disk of pressure plate. The 2 vans were old Chevrolets and one had a totally worn out clutch, pressure plate and even the tranny itself was worn out (it was an old, high mileage van) The other van had an incorrect clutch installed in it by the previous owner. It was almost impossibly stiff... Finally I had a clutch problem with my EVO. The pressure plate was not strong enough for the WHP and the clutch disk became glazed as well as the pressure plate. It slipped like mad.

That's it, almost 50 years of driving and only experience 2 worn clutches. The only one in a newer car was the EVO.... Maybe another person has never in their life experieced a worn out clutch. How are they supposed to know the symptoms? Just because one drives a straight shift car with a powerful engine, it does not make you a mechanic. Also, to own an EVO it's not required that you be a mechanic either. AFAIC, it's perfectly OK to ask for help about anything related to the EVOs in this forums. Ignorance is not a horrible defect. It's a condition that can be cured and the remedy is knowledge. I say ask all you want and learn all you can. There is no fault in that.

 

I disagree with your argument here. Mitsu did not put a weaker clutch in to make the car easier to drive, but rather to reduce damage to the drivetrain caused by aggressive driving/launching with a clutch that won't give. There wasn't much compromising when it came to suspension or noise, so why would they have leaned toward the side of comfort with the clutch? They didn't, they leaned toward the side of fewer drivetrain failures.

Additionally, I have driven Evos with stock, ACT street, and Exedy twin clutches and found them all equally easy to drive. I have a Tilton twin cerametallic waiting to go into my car which I do not expect to be easy to drive. I am willing to accept that in my personal car, but would probably not recommend it to most other users. The Exedy twin, however, is a great daily driver clutch that provides great modulation, good torque capacity, and a fairly light pedal feel (only slightly heavier than stock).

-Paul

 

Hi Paul, you can disagree if you like, but I still believe that the clutch in the EVO is a compromise between power holding and driveability. You are correct in your experience and maybe to you all the clutches are the same. Still, I say looking at your signature you are an avid modifier and hard core car nut:
3" TBE, AMS FMIC, AMS LICP, AMS UICP w/Tial BOV, AMS Front and Side Motor Mounts, MAFTpro, HKS 272i/272e, FP White Rabbit, Coated Ebay O2 Housing, Ported/Coated Exhaust Manifold, Walbro 255, PTE 1000cc injectors, Ferodo DS-2500 Brake Pads, Hotchkis Rear Sway Bar, Performance Friction 2-Piece Rotors, Muellerized JIC FLT-A2's, 17x10 5zigen FN01R-C's, Yokohama Advan Neovas.

POWERED BY E85!!
Your opinion about the clutches (and generally of the driveability of modified cars) is heavily influenced by your personal preferences and not necessarily representative of what the average Joe would experience. Besides, in a car such as yours, the driveability would be radically different from a stock EVO even with the stock clutch (which you obviously cannot use with the power levels your car makes )

 

I guess my point is, people should do some homework before they buy their cars.

The first time a cluth started going on me I knew exactly what it was, I was 16 at the time and on my first manual transmission car. So this guy didn't, point taken, but that does not make it any less entertaining to me.

The part I find especially funny is that he said himself that it didn't happen over night, he had the symptoms and did not post up anything asking for advice until it was an "EMERGENCY".