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Old May 12, 2007 | 05:21 AM
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Soon2BEvo's car should dyno over 400 on 93 with the Green. But, some cars are just stupid.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Soon2BEVO
Blockhed made 400whp on Dynojet at 21-22psi on straight 93 octane, he had all supporting mods + EMS.
Wow, big power at extremely low boost levels.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by L80Killa87
I'm ordering gsc s1 cams in about a week and a half. I want a bigger turbo down the road *and 400whp on pump* I get 93 octane in my area and don't fill up with anything but that. I want to safely achieve 400 whp on pump gas. I want the smallest turbo to do so. I don't want to run race gas to get it, and I'm not a fan of meth. I think this is possible? Maybe some of you gurus can help out. Thanks a bunch!
Some Evos are just more powerful than other examples. Your car could very well be capable of the 400 WHP number, with the mods you have in mind. I like your choice of cams and would either go with the S1's or HKS 272's myself for they both seem to be good for the Green.

You should get a tune and baseline your car so that you'll have a reference before you start modding or switching turbos. In my wn case, I would be happy with 380 from the Green @ 21 PSI, as I think that my own personal car is a bit of an underachiever.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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^^^ Curious to see how much Birdie gains by adding the AMS VSR to the Green... I really didn't want to spend that kind of money, though...

I am pleased with the S1's, SOTP is like this: before, my IX had a nice, fun low-end torque spike, followed by a tapering off of mid and top end whp, leaving you wanting more... After S1's, I notice that after my torque spike, all is not lost - there is still good pulling power all the way to about 7k rpm. I have to say that these cams feel like they add power smoothly throughout the entire power band - similar to what a set of 272's should do.

BACK on topic: Since my IX is a daily driver, I don't want to use AEM EMS - to hit 400whp, I am considering a GM Maf - some members on here think that a good amount of the difference in power between stock ECU and EMS (20whp), could be made up using a different MAF setup...
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Old May 12, 2007 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky
Wow, big power at extremely low boost levels.
I have heard that 21psi on an AEM EMS is = 23psi on stock ECU, so not really that low of boost...
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Old May 12, 2007 | 05:43 AM
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Hmmmmm 20 whp from having an ems? That kinda sucks, for me, cuz I don't feel like dropping over a grand to gain 20 whp and have other cool features. I really wanted to keep the stock ecu because this car is my daily driver. Hell I could live with 380 whp. i'm getting the s1s, o2 housing and either porting the stock mani or getting a tubular one. I also thought about the 10.5 hotside for the meantime *I have an 03* After these mods were accomplished I was gonna get a tune of some sorts, probably a mail in flash. I'll get my car dynoed after these mods to see what I'm playing with, then save up for some injectors and the green, and see where we're at!

Oh also, I'll have to research this maf setup you're talking about. Couldn't be too expensive to pulloff, course I'm sure that tuning would have to be involved.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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not to high jack ur thread bro but i had the same question, i was wondering if i would likely hit 400whp with my mods in the sig. on 93 or so with meth....... tune being done by CFT
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Old May 12, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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^^^ If you don't hit 400whp with a Green turbo on meth with your mods, something would definitely be wrong there...
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Old May 12, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cali2MDevo8
I have GSC S1 cams in my 8 now. Look at my sig and click on the link to view my dyno sheet. Very far from 400whp. Def need a larger turbo. Especially you because you have a 9.8 hot side and my 05 is 10.5.

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what type of dyno were tested/tuned on?

if all the supporting mods are there, 400 whp on 93 oct, dyno'd on a dj should be possible.

i made over 360 on 91 oct while on a dj dyno with a 16g.

400 on 93 oct, w/fp-grn should be obtainable
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Old May 12, 2007 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by mudduck
^^^ If you don't hit 400whp with a Green turbo on meth with your mods, something would definitely be wrong there...
ha thanks man, i was hoping maybe but we'll see on Tuesday when i go to get her tuned up. i'll post up the numbers. i was having an argument with a tool in town last night saying that i would be lucky to get 360whp. ha!!!
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Old May 12, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mudduck
^^^ Curious to see how much Birdie gains by adding the AMS VSR to the Green... I really didn't want to spend that kind of money, though... I am considering a GM Maf - some members on here think that a good amount of the difference in power between stock ECU and EMS (20whp), could be made up using a different MAF setup...
I don´t know why there hasn´t been a wider spread use of GM MAF´s and the MAF translator w/i the Evo tuner community. I see that a few guys have had success on here with the 3" GM MAF and have always wondered if the 3.5" GM MAF´s would work. Who knows you may be on the right track.

A bit off topic ,but, I ran a 3" MAF w/translator on my Buick GN. In fact it was a Translator Plus which allowed you to just add or pull timing by flicking some little switches on the translator. Let me know if you should go with a GM MAF setup. The GM MAFS have better resolution at the higher flow levels and can even be run w/o the honeycomb.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by L80Killa87
I'm ordering gsc s1 cams in about a week and a half. I want a bigger turbo down the road *and 400whp on pump* I get 93 octane in my area and don't fill up with anything but that. I want to safely achieve 400 whp on pump gas. I want the smallest turbo to do so. I don't want to run race gas to get it, and I'm not a fan of meth. I think this is possible? Maybe some of you gurus can help out. Thanks a bunch!

4 sure
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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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Old May 13, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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Haha thats good. I can't wait now! lol I still haven't researched this gm maf thing yet. I've been at the lake all weekend, gotta get caught up on this haha. I'm just waiting on the new credit card and then the cams will be ordered, along with probably a few other doo dads, then I just have to wait for the turbo.
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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I think its possible, When i got my car tuned by jestr it was pushing 355 WHP and 365 FT TQ @26lbs of boost on 93oct. The mods that i had were MBC, TBE, K&N drop in filter, Ams LICP, and GSC S1 Cams which was dyno tuned my jestr. If you go with the green you will be very close to 400WHP.
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