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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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Come on guys. Al can only compare what he has in front of him. This isn't some shaddy setup to discredit anyone. He had a guy with a crappy turbo and switched it out. My guess is that this was one of the SSAC 50 trims RNR has been accused of selling.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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I can't see the Graphs cuz I am at work, any safe way to post them?
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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I can't see the Graphs cuz I am at work, any safe way to post them?
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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The car is built. It is an 03 and it has a 2.4 in a it. His ID on here is app420. The 50trim was problems and didnt make power, this is a whole lot better. =d
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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Is it an RNR built 2.4?
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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The car is built. It is an 03 and it has a 2.4 in a it. His ID on here is app420. The 50trim was problems and didnt make power, this is a whole lot better. =d
If those numbers are on a >2.0L engine, then that's pretty sad...

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by robertrinaustin
Al, Did this 50 trim look like the 50 trim SS Autochrome offers or is it an actual Precision turbo?
I did a little searching(name looked familiar) and the 50 trim this member was running was definitely not a PTE or Garret unit.

Here's a thread showing who "app420" bought his RnR 50 trim kit off of.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=276619

Go back one month from that thread and you find the seller "KY" discussing the RnR kit he just bought. Pics show that the turbo is indeed not a PTE or Garret unit.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=270806
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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Gentlemen

I want to try and educate some of you about the reality of making a "test"

The customer is on pump gas on a low reading dyno in 95 degree air temps (its July) - the idea here is not to break a dyno record

What the dyno sheet shows is the effect of changing the 50 trim (which ever one he had) to a GT37 non ball bearing - that is ALL

Its irrelevant whether you think the "numbers" what ever that means are "good enough" or not

ALL that matters here is to show the difference between the two turbos as far as power band and how they work - ON THE SAME CAR

Of course I could make a few changes on the set up and increase power - for example by adding a AEM or a Buschur tubular header and o2 housing - but all of that is totally beisdes the point

This information is conveyed simply to help people who want to compare turbos

End of story

PS - if you want a dyno contest my Evo made 978 whp on this dyno and that was not even at peak boost

Al

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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late trq for a 2.4...
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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I don't mean to be a dick, but the fastest stock bottom end EVO [ 4g63girl / StreetTuned Motorsports ] went 131mph on a "weak pathetic" RnR 35R kit, in a full weight evo rocking 18s.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
...The customer is on pump gas on a low reading dyno in 95 degree air temps (its July)...
Isn't this "low reading dyno" a Dyno Dynamics dyno that has been calibrated to read more like a DynoJet? Which would in effect make it one of the highest reading Dyno Dynamics dynos in the country...

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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I don't mean to be a dick, but the fastest stock bottom end EVO [ 4g63girl / StreetTuned Motorsports ] went 131mph on a "weak pathetic" RnR 35R kit, in a full weight evo rocking 18s.
Who knows how fast this guy would go on race gas mapping and high boost - that is not the issue or point of this thread

BTW - the Gt37 responds very well on the street there is zero lag between shifts and its on boost all the time - after driving my Gt42 it feels like a tiny turbo actually
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
but I am a very conservative tuner by design


That is all
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ludikraut
Isn't this "low reading dyno" a Dyno Dynamics dyno that has been calibrated to read more like a DynoJet? Which would in effect make it one of the highest reading Dyno Dynamics dynos in the country...

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yea thats for sure.
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