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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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AMS VSR INTAKE or MAGNUS INTAKE

I would like to know the following:

1. What do you guys think of each

2. Which performs better

3. How many people that are running FAST EVO's have the AMS Intake vs. the magnus?

I hope to get some good responses

I am all in favor of AMS because they are the Shi* and there products are amazing.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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There is a side conversation going on that AMS INTAKE is TOO expensive and the magnus intake is just as good.....

Any opinions are welcome

thanks for looking!
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Im running 9s with the Maguns manifold. I really feel like from our dyno testing that its not a limiting factor. Bushur has pruven the stock to flow up to 750whp and i know the magnus is bigger. I do believe the AMS to be better design and would make 15-25more whp up top. Martin at AMS has his old dual rail manifold with a q45 throttle body ready for me so i will get some # s up soon.
I hit 924whp on the Magnus
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Moved post to your thread
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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They only thing I know on the Subject is Big AL had a Magnus and the welds blew out at High boost.


That is all.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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I did not want to start a huge argument but the overall design and the ability to adapt on the VSR intake is amazing.. The quality and the welding that goes into ams's products are top notch.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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Thanks bud, again, I have been following your thread on your car and a big congrats to you. It looks like you are going to start playing with the big boys huh?

So you will be switching over from the magus to the VSR right?
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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I've got nothing bad to say about AMS products, including their manifold, but you're asking about the Magnus SMIM.

I have had a number of Magnus manifolds on both DSMs and my present Evo. Magnus manifolds are very high quality parts, well known and used on high HP DSMs and Evos for years. The newest "race" Magnus is even better, and is still a bargain compared to the price of the other manifolds you'd be considering as competition. Call Marco Passante, the owner of Magnus, and ask him about the race manifold characteristics and testing.

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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 2003lancerevo8
Thanks bud, again, I have been following your thread on your car and a big congrats to you. It looks like you are going to start playing with the big boys huh?

So you will be switching over from the magus to the VSR right?
Im going to try the ETS manifold out soon they are making me one right now as we speak
The AMS one i will get but need to let the funds catch up
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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I've got nothing bad to say about AMS products, including their manifold, but you're asking about the Magnus SMIM.

I have had a number of Magnus manifolds on both DSMs and my present Evo. Magnus manifolds are very high quality parts, well known and used on high HP DSMs and Evos for years. The newest "race" Magnus is even better, and is still a bargain compared to the price of the other manifolds you'd be considering as competition. Call Marco Passante, the owner of Magnus, and ask him about the race manifold characteristics and testing.
Great group of guys to talk to i wish i would have bought the race version of his manifold
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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i guess.... running low 9's kind of puts a damper on the pocket books. So your next in line to catch AMS huh??

Good luck to you..
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 2003lancerevo8
I would like to know the following:

1. What do you guys think of each

2. Which performs better

3. How many people that are running FAST EVO's have the AMS Intake vs. the magnus?

I hope to get some good responses

I am all in favor of AMS because they are the Shi* and there products are amazing.

Why are you asking about the difference when you already have the VSR as one of your mods?
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Im going to try the ETS manifold out soon they are making me one right now as we speak
The AMS one i will get but need to let the funds catch up
can't wait till ETS come out with their version of it. I talked to TOM and he said it should be out within the month if their workload permits them to design it right now.

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I've got nothing bad to say about AMS products, including their manifold, but you're asking about the Magnus SMIM.

I have had a number of Magnus manifolds on both DSMs and my present Evo. Magnus manifolds are very high quality parts, well known and used on high HP DSMs and Evos for years. The newest "race" Magnus is even better, and is still a bargain compared to the price of the other manifolds you'd be considering as competition. Call Marco Passante, the owner of Magnus, and ask him about the race manifold characteristics and testing.
I agree that their Race Manifold is awesome. Magnus has been making sheet metal intakes forever for DSM's and currently for EVOs. They have numerous DSMs in the 8s, 9s, 10s and EVO's in the 9s, 10s etc. They are known for their great quality and design. AMS also has a great product and quality is awesome also, but i believe that their stuff is expensive and Magnus race manifold delivers the same way AMS VSR does. I just think they charge alot of money for selling their name...maybe they have a huge overhead to pay for $$$ .

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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 2003lancerevo8
2. Which performs better?
With respect to performance or durability? One has to decide which before he can intelligently answer your question.

The general consensus (at least as far as I can see it) indicates the AMS unit to be more durable with respect to construction. I don't recall seeing an instance where one has broken (?).

As for performance, that is an entirely different question. The purpose of an aftermarket intake is to improve VE at higher rpm ranges. This being the case, whatever improvements it offers is largely dependent upon other factors, such as turbo size, headflow capability, cam selection, etc. Until someone makes an accurate back-to-back test using a platform that can truly test the limits of either, it's pure speculation. I might mention however that the AMS unit was designed and tested after the Magnus piece. If the AMS manifold demonstrated any less capability than the Magnus, I would be surprised.

But then again, whatever difference may be apparent for a 10k rpm 42R drag car probably doesn't make a lick of difference for a small turbo dd.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
With respect to performance or durability? One has to decide which before he can intelligently answer your question.

The general consensus (at least as far as I can see it) indicates the AMS unit to be more durable with respect to construction. I don't recall seeing an instance where one has broken (?).

As for performance, that is an entirely different question. The purpose of an aftermarket intake is to improve VE at higher rpm ranges. This being the case, whatever improvements it offers is largely dependent upon other factors, such as turbo size, headflow capability, cam selection, etc. Until someone makes an accurate back-to-back test using a platform that can truly test the limits of either, it's pure speculation. I might mention however that the AMS unit was designed and tested after the Magnus piece. If the AMS manifold demonstrated any less capability than the Magnus, I would be surprised.

But then again, whatever difference may be apparent for a 10k rpm 42R drag car probably doesn't make a lick of difference for a small turbo dd.
couldnt have said it better myself
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