my engine blew....any thoughts and help?
wow...a lot has opened over night and today...gotta catch up.
ok so let me clear some things up a bit....
-i have yet to get into the motor and figure out what exactly went wrong that dreadful night going home,
-here in Hawaii, we have 92 octane.....not 93 or 91 ....and then he have a 100
-no Tony, i did not use gas on base as i know that Aloha, Tesoro, Texaco, Cosmic, etc. have sh*tty gas.....i only use Shell
good sh*t
-the motor "went" before i hit full boost at approx 1.5bar ~ 21psi.
-it was in 4th gear rolling around 40mph (3100-3200 rpm)
SOOO, because im anxious to see for myself what went wrong and to see the damages, i will start my tear down today...might be a little slow cuz i dont have a cherry picker (engine hoist) and an engine dolley. so bear with me on this tear down.
ill be taking pics for reference and also for you folks to help me figure out this shiznizzles as to why this had happened.
ill be back........later 
ok so let me clear some things up a bit....
-i have yet to get into the motor and figure out what exactly went wrong that dreadful night going home,
-here in Hawaii, we have 92 octane.....not 93 or 91 ....and then he have a 100
-no Tony, i did not use gas on base as i know that Aloha, Tesoro, Texaco, Cosmic, etc. have sh*tty gas.....i only use Shell
good sh*t-the motor "went" before i hit full boost at approx 1.5bar ~ 21psi.
-it was in 4th gear rolling around 40mph (3100-3200 rpm)
SOOO, because im anxious to see for myself what went wrong and to see the damages, i will start my tear down today...might be a little slow cuz i dont have a cherry picker (engine hoist) and an engine dolley. so bear with me on this tear down.
ill be taking pics for reference and also for you folks to help me figure out this shiznizzles as to why this had happened.
ill be back........later
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are you that stuck onyourself and ignorant, you better open up your eyes.
you can run an engine on methanol alone.
and i did not say flush your gas tank. I said to make sure to flush any remaining meth in the engine out and any in the intake tract.
and there is this in between phase of liguid and vapor where the methanol can clog the nozzle.
Man you gots to be the most bigheaded, big mouthy person i know on here. I remember hearing your remarks before.
you like that guy that puts a bullet in his fuse box as a replacement for the blown fuse as a permanant replacement and say "see its been on there for 3 years and no problems, so much for theory"
dude you are pathetic.
you go ahead and use your meth injection for another year or 2 without using it the smart way and see what happens. I will be laughing a year from now im sure.LOL. and i hope all your customers sue you!!
you can run an engine on methanol alone.
and i did not say flush your gas tank. I said to make sure to flush any remaining meth in the engine out and any in the intake tract.
and there is this in between phase of liguid and vapor where the methanol can clog the nozzle.
Man you gots to be the most bigheaded, big mouthy person i know on here. I remember hearing your remarks before.
you like that guy that puts a bullet in his fuse box as a replacement for the blown fuse as a permanant replacement and say "see its been on there for 3 years and no problems, so much for theory"
dude you are pathetic.
you go ahead and use your meth injection for another year or 2 without using it the smart way and see what happens. I will be laughing a year from now im sure.LOL. and i hope all your customers sue you!!
#1. The Evo is a 4 cylinder and it only has one "head". Not "heads"
#2. I have inspected my intake tract and enigne many times. There is nothing happening to any aluminum visable by the naked eye.
#3 Let's see proof? Find me one person that has had a clogged methanol nozzle. Go ahead, do it! You cannot find any? It's because you are looking for them in books and not in the real world. Meth clogged nozzles has never happened to me or anyone I have ever heard of. Its but another figment of something else you read from a book.
#4. Methanol is not put in the gas tank, nor is it pumped by a denso or walbro and it is not run through fuel injectors. Why would someone drain their fuel system and gas tank because they run meth injection.
When you get a clue what meth injection is, how it is run, stored, pumped by, pumped through, sprayed through and have some ACTUAL experience using it yourself, please do come back to the thread and post about the subject you actually have ANY experience with.
Thanks for playing the pretend I know what I am talking about game.
#2. I have inspected my intake tract and enigne many times. There is nothing happening to any aluminum visable by the naked eye.
#3 Let's see proof? Find me one person that has had a clogged methanol nozzle. Go ahead, do it! You cannot find any? It's because you are looking for them in books and not in the real world. Meth clogged nozzles has never happened to me or anyone I have ever heard of. Its but another figment of something else you read from a book.
#4. Methanol is not put in the gas tank, nor is it pumped by a denso or walbro and it is not run through fuel injectors. Why would someone drain their fuel system and gas tank because they run meth injection.
When you get a clue what meth injection is, how it is run, stored, pumped by, pumped through, sprayed through and have some ACTUAL experience using it yourself, please do come back to the thread and post about the subject you actually have ANY experience with.
Thanks for playing the pretend I know what I am talking about game.
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Wrong again my reasoned age came with daily experience tuning Evos since they came out, traveling all over the USA tuning them on varying fuels with just about any combination of mods you can imagine and doing mail in and email tuning for customers all over the world. I have hundreds of verified independant dyno and track results to verify and support the work I am doing and dozens of customers over 100,000 miles with my tuning with no incidents. In this business there is no substitute for hands on experience and going through the process of actually tuning cars in the field. As much complaining as you can dream up at least you can not say your pistons went through the side of your block with my tune.
Anyway, this isnt a thread about you, its about this guys car, so continue arguing with TTP. There are enough threads about my types of issues with you, we dont need 1 more.
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if you're refering to when the motor blew, it happened at somewhere between 3500-4000rpm in 4th gear. once it hit 21 psi (29 full boost) the motor went...
if you're refering to the engine's life, 7200rpm
well, im doing my disassembly as we speak. the first, foremost and upmost thing i did was take off my uicp where the alky nozzle is at to see if it is indeed functioning the way it's suppose to.....and it does work:
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alky006vt7.flv
im very confident in my own product installment of this kit and im sure it works as it's suppose to
for me, i would cross off the "alky functioning properly?" dilemma off of my "possible reasons why my motor blew" list
i am working on the car as we speak....
if you're refering to the engine's life, 7200rpm
well, im doing my disassembly as we speak. the first, foremost and upmost thing i did was take off my uicp where the alky nozzle is at to see if it is indeed functioning the way it's suppose to.....and it does work:
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alky006vt7.flv
im very confident in my own product installment of this kit and im sure it works as it's suppose to
for me, i would cross off the "alky functioning properly?" dilemma off of my "possible reasons why my motor blew" list
i am working on the car as we speak....
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if you're refering to when the motor blew, it happened at somewhere between 3500-4000rpm in 4th gear. once it hit 21 psi (29 full boost) the motor went...
if you're refering to the engine's life, 7200rpm
well, im doing my disassembly as we speak. the first, foremost and upmost thing i did was take off my uicp where the alky nozzle is at to see if it is indeed functioning the way it's suppose to.....and it does work:
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alky006vt7.flv
im very confident in my own product installment of this kit and im sure it works as it's suppose to
for me, i would cross off the "alky functioning properly?" dilemma off of my "possible reasons why my motor blew" list
i am working on the car as we speak....
if you're refering to the engine's life, 7200rpm
well, im doing my disassembly as we speak. the first, foremost and upmost thing i did was take off my uicp where the alky nozzle is at to see if it is indeed functioning the way it's suppose to.....and it does work:
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alky006vt7.flv
im very confident in my own product installment of this kit and im sure it works as it's suppose to
for me, i would cross off the "alky functioning properly?" dilemma off of my "possible reasons why my motor blew" list
i am working on the car as we speak....
Sorry to hear about the loss
are you that stuck onyourself and ignorant, you better open up your eyes.
you can run an engine on methanol alone.
and i did not say flush your gas tank. I said to make sure to flush any remaining meth in the engine out and any in the intake tract.
and there is this in between phase of liguid and vapor where the methanol can clog the nozzle.
Man you gots to be the most bigheaded, big mouthy person i know on here. I remember hearing your remarks before.
you like that guy that puts a bullet in his fuse box as a replacement for the blown fuse as a permanant replacement and say "see its been on there for 3 years and no problems, so much for theory"
dude you are pathetic.
you go ahead and use your meth injection for another year or 2 without using it the smart way and see what happens. I will be laughing a year from now im sure.LOL. and i hope all your customers sue you!!
you can run an engine on methanol alone.
and i did not say flush your gas tank. I said to make sure to flush any remaining meth in the engine out and any in the intake tract.
and there is this in between phase of liguid and vapor where the methanol can clog the nozzle.
Man you gots to be the most bigheaded, big mouthy person i know on here. I remember hearing your remarks before.
you like that guy that puts a bullet in his fuse box as a replacement for the blown fuse as a permanant replacement and say "see its been on there for 3 years and no problems, so much for theory"
dude you are pathetic.
you go ahead and use your meth injection for another year or 2 without using it the smart way and see what happens. I will be laughing a year from now im sure.LOL. and i hope all your customers sue you!!
You have ZERO actual experience with methanol injection. End of story.
if you're refering to when the motor blew, it happened at somewhere between 3500-4000rpm in 4th gear. once it hit 21 psi (29 full boost) the motor went...
if you're refering to the engine's life, 7200rpm
well, im doing my disassembly as we speak. the first, foremost and upmost thing i did was take off my uicp where the alky nozzle is at to see if it is indeed functioning the way it's suppose to.....and it does work:
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alky006vt7.flv
im very confident in my own product installment of this kit and im sure it works as it's suppose to
for me, i would cross off the "alky functioning properly?" dilemma off of my "possible reasons why my motor blew" list
i am working on the car as we speak....
if you're refering to the engine's life, 7200rpm
well, im doing my disassembly as we speak. the first, foremost and upmost thing i did was take off my uicp where the alky nozzle is at to see if it is indeed functioning the way it's suppose to.....and it does work:
http://img532.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alky006vt7.flv
im very confident in my own product installment of this kit and im sure it works as it's suppose to
for me, i would cross off the "alky functioning properly?" dilemma off of my "possible reasons why my motor blew" list
i am working on the car as we speak....
What size nozzle is in there?
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off to the spark plugs and a peak at the pistons
number 1 spark plug and piston:
number 2:
here's number 3 (broken rod)
and number 4
i found some black only in the area where the spark plug would ignite....obviously, number 3 piston is nowhere to be found.
im beginning to think that i may have damaged the head some because of an indication from number 3 spark plug....that chipped of metal and bent arch touching the electrode.......then again, i dont want to ASSUME that my head's damaged because im just hoping for the best, wishing and hoping that i can still make good use of that head.
oh boy...........
number 1 spark plug and piston:
number 2:
here's number 3 (broken rod)
and number 4
i found some black only in the area where the spark plug would ignite....obviously, number 3 piston is nowhere to be found.
im beginning to think that i may have damaged the head some because of an indication from number 3 spark plug....that chipped of metal and bent arch touching the electrode.......then again, i dont want to ASSUME that my head's damaged because im just hoping for the best, wishing and hoping that i can still make good use of that head.
oh boy...........
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i have yet to measure the nozzle....so ill get back to you on that.
