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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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TME Compressor Wheel

I have searched and searched for someone to sell or install a TME Titanium Compressor wheel for a stock Evo 9turbo.....can someone help me? I'm an old dog in the forum and still have no luck. What I am looking to do is not make more power but only want the spool up of the lightweight wheel on the stock IX turbo.....i.e not a lot of extra mods needed.

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Chris

P.S. I know the new japanese IX MR has a magnesium wheel but I don't know where to get that either.

Please no comments on 2.3 stroker, meth injection, etc. I'm old school.....simplicity over hype.

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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You have your info a little confused.

The magnesium compressor wheel on the JDM MRs is notorious for failure if factory boost levels are exceeded. I don't think you want to deal with that.

The titanium aluminide component of the TME turbo is the turbine, not the compressor. As for what the swap possibilities are, if someone doesn't chime in here with specific info, the staff at Forced Performance (www.forcedperformance.net) will know.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Thanks Ted.....sorry for the mix up.

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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I did it with my turbo. you can actually feel the a big difference in weight between the two exhaust shafts.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted B
You have your info a little confused.

The magnesium compressor wheel on the JDM MRs is notorious for failure if factory boost levels are exceeded. I don't think you want to deal with that.

The titanium aluminide component of the TME turbo is the turbine, not the compressor. As for what the swap possibilities are, if someone doesn't chime in here with specific info, the staff at Forced Performance (www.forcedperformance.net) will know.
SO... all those hybrid Mag/Titanium shaft/wheel combo IX turbo's I keep seeing are probably a bad idea...

I was leaning towards a 3076 anyway. That made that easy.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Talk to Blouch turbo...they can do those swaps...if you decide to not go 3076.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo Ate
I have searched and searched for someone to sell or install a TME Titanium Compressor wheel for a stock Evo 9turbo.....can someone help me? I'm an old dog in the forum and still have no luck. What I am looking to do is not make more power but only want the spool up of the lightweight wheel on the stock IX turbo.....i.e not a lot of extra mods needed.P.S. I know the new japanese IX MR has a magnesium wheel but I don't know where to get that either.
The IX turbo configured with a titanium turbine wheel is called a TME-9 turbo. The idea for this hybrid was hatched by Trinydex, who also coined the term. As mentioned above, any reputable turbo shop such as Blouch or Forced Performance, should be able to piece one together for you. If you already have a IX turbo then they'll just remove your old turbine wheel and install the new TiAl wheel and VSR balance the rotating assembly.

I saw a IX turbo with a Magnesium compressor wheel, advertised on the turbochargers.com website. This is a pricey piece and for the money you might as well get an Evogreen turbo instead of the magnesium wheeled IX unit.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky
The IX turbo configured with a titanium turbine wheel is called a TME-9 turbo. The idea for this hybrid was hatched by Trinydex, who also coined the term. As mentioned above, any reputable turbo shop such as Blouch or Forced Performance, should be able to piece one together for you. If you already have a IX turbo then they'll just remove your old turbine wheel and install the new TiAl wheel and VSR balance the rotating assembly.

I saw a IX turbo with a Magnesium compressor wheel, advertised on the turbochargers.com website. This is a pricey piece and for the money you might as well get an Evogreen turbo instead of the magnesium wheeled IX unit.
the Green would spool slower than the TME-9. . .
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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EDIT: See post #10, below. Sorry for double posting again. I think that it has something to do with my rheumatic condition.

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shivaswrath
the Green would spool slower than the TME-9. . .
I would probably tend to agree with you that a TME-9, especially one configured with a magnesium compressor wheel as well as the TiAl turbine wheel should outspool a Green. But, to know for sure, someone would have to drive an Evo equipped with a TME-9 and compare it to a Green equipped car. Otherwise we would be basing our comparative conclusions on conjecture and supposition.

Have you personally driven a TME-9 equipped Evo?
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Doesn't the IX RS come with th Ti turbine?
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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I saw the mag c wheel IX turbo on Lancer shop too. Its cheaper than the green. Rated at the IX 450, and I'm sure spools quicker. But if the mag wheel detonates at higher shaft speeds... I can't begin to explain how pointless it is. This fact is something I didn't know.
The TME IX is there too.
http://www.lancershop.com/customer/home.php?cat=17
scroll down.
IDK if this is a reputable vendor, but I believe I pulled the link down from an ad from here. They appear to be cheaper on some things. Such as turbo's.

Sorry, I'm new to some of these Evo vendors.

On the green/20g VS GT series... my decision is basically based on the following;
Considering cost, ($1699 for green) for $600 more you can get the full bolt on GT3076R kit from ATP. incl dp, lines, fittings, WG, its all v-band... bolts to the stock manifold (huge plus) no waiting time, comes with LICP, couplers etc, I cannot see why anyone would stand around weeks, thumb in ***... for a 20g.
(And I love fp)
Just my opinion.

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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Here is where you have to specify, otherwise it can get confusing. The USDM IX RS turbo does not have a titanium-aluminide turbine wheel. However, I think that the turbo used on the JDM IX RS is a totally different animal, and may well indeed have a lightweight metal wheel(s), but I don't remember. Maybe someone else will chime in with the pertinent info.

My JDM VIII RS turbo did in fact have a titanium-aluminide turbine wheel while the USDM VIII RS turbo has an inconel steel wheel. The JDM RS turbo had a slightly larger titanium wheel than the garden variety Ti wheel found on the TME turbo. Said difference had a measurable impact on exhaust backpressure.
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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Quick question there Sparky... (sorry I just HAD to say that )

Is the;

Originally Posted by you
while the USDM VIII RS turbo has an inconel steel wheel.
The same as the wheels on the rest of the USDM VIII turbo's?

Or are the RS wheels different in any way?

(<---- I have an RS, just wondering)
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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AFAIK, the '05 USDM VIIIs all use identical 16G turbos across the model range(GSR, MR, RS, etc.). The JDM VIII had the Ti turbine wheel and the 9.8 turbine housing(aka, hotside).

Incidentally, a TME-9 with the 9.8 HS would likely spoolup pretty fast too. Although the larger A/R compressor housing would tend to slow things down just a bit in comparison to a true VIII TME turbo.

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