u need to use common sense. i think a ebay exhaust is fine, if u are going catless u cant really screw that up. intercooler nearly the same, turbo kit from china, NO WAY.

 

I want to see someone build an EBAY EVO and lets see how it runs, I mean Ebay turbo, 02, exhaust intercooler I mean the whole sha bang!

Lets see it run down the quarter, go through some real track time and lets see how well these great "ebay parts" hold up to abuse.

I can answer you, THEY WON'T!!

I drove my car for 3 years with all AMS Parts, of course getting it tuned and all but my car never BROKE or my turbo never exploded......

If you need to save money when modding your car, maybe you should think twice about owning this car.

Does that mean you take your car to JOE the mechanic to get your maintance done???

You are driving a car that a lot of kids world wide dream of owning and your running cheap a$$ parts to possibly blow your motor and ruin your car... who are you guys kidding.

My experience on here is that most of the time people who call out tuner shops have very little work done with them and if something went wrong, god forbid it could be the parts that are on the car.......

I know I am sounding grouchy but how many times does this EBAY stuff have to come up???

When someone builds a fully built EBAY car and proves itself at that point I may start to concider it, MAYBE.

AMS and Buschur back there products with how many 800-1200 whp evos that run on the street or are running in low 9's and how many are on the verge of running 8's. It takes a lot of money to get these cars built reliable to run in the 10's....

I myself am not that trusting to buy crappy parts and run them on my car.

Good luck to all who like running crappy parts on there super cars......

 

It's very easy to screw up an exhaust, how many bends it has, size, exhaust material, did you not read the post by Martin on the intercooler?

It only lost 12 horsepower??? That kills me.....

You don't only install an intercooler to gain whp, you gain it to stop heatsoak, you are not going to gain 50 whp from an i/c.

every bit helps, espcially when it's done right.

That does not make sense, " you can not screw up an exhaust" the name of the game is to make parts installation and optimizing your gains right?

If you bought an AMS exhuast and gained 20 whp, fit n finish and install was flawless for $600 I believe right now ( don't quote me on this)

vs
Ebay exhaust that has too many bends, quality is not that good, welds suck and you had to weld a flange on to get it to bolt up and only gained 10 whp for $200

To me, it's not worth the time and hassle to deal with shaddy parts.

Then what happens when you pay the guy, he does not ship the parts and you are out your $200.00? Then you pay another $200 to get the same thing.. NO THANKS.

 

when i installed my buschur racing fmic i noticed that my boost dropped almost by 1psi i had to readjust my mbc,when doing logs with evoscan i could see that the ecu was hitting higher load cells specially on the lower rpms and at peakboost.

also boost came slightly slower but its because it became richer on the lower rpms cause of the increase boost iam getting retune right know.

 

dont get why you guys are hating on ebay, my friends old 89 hatch with ebay intercooler and turbo made 350 at 15psi on a stock ls motor with head studs and a gasket and ran a 11.5 in a 1/4 and i know plenty of hondas guys who are making good power with EBAY parts, i'm running a EBAY front mount and i pulled another 9 with a stock front mount and basically the same mods but he has a "better" tune.

 

Thats fine for your buddys honda, I might do that with an 89 honda too... I'm all up for saving some money but engine parts is not where you should penny pinch. Its the part of the car, particularly with a turbo engine, that takes the most abuse. If you're not gunna track it and aren't going that high of hp then ebay should suit you fine, and if you're happy than thats all that matters. Just be careful, nobody wants to see you blow something cause of $200. Good luck with it and keep us posted to how its treating you.

 

you will lose boost and it will take a bit laggier becuase the core is soo much bigger. Get a retune and you should be fine.

My point is with this whole EBAY thing, we are driving around in cars that people dream of owning.

You apparently did not cheap out on the car, why would you on the parts that you use. if you want to make cheap horsepower buy an AMERICAN PILE or a fox body mustang.

this whole thing is like beating a dead horse....

Whatever floats your boat but if you are looking at maintaining and running your car it would make me think twice....

 

The Ebay intercoller worked ok for me. Perhaps I would have made more power with a more reputable brand, but If I can get to 650 with this core, it stays... I have over 50k miles on this core now and its seen its share of 30+psi...

 

I basically have an Ebay Evo......Ebay IC and Ebay catback. With the addition of AEM intake, MBC, DP, and fuel pump netted 300 WHP on AMS dyno with their tune of course. My car is daily driven, ran the car on a road course once so far and plan on going the strip in the near future. I haven't had one issue with the Ebay parts (IC I have had for about a year and exhaust for 2 years).

As far as the Ebay exhaust having too many bends....depends on which one.

And for the record not everyone drives around a $30K Evo with no limit on the credit cards. I bought my 03 used for $22k.....have a baby, a new house, and a wedding coming up that takes up my money. I have to maximize my mod to money ratio.

 

Maybe I just got a bad core, but I had an ebay FMIC and it sucked. With meth and 91 I was running 25 psi and made 306whp and 319tq. Not bad, but once I put the stock fmic back on, the boost increased 1.5 psi. Turned the boost back down to 25 psi and the car made 326whp and 321wtq.

As for the exhaust, stainless piping is stainless piping. And if it's mandrel and 3", as long as the muffler works ok, then it's going to flow just fine. I actually had an ebay exhaust as well. The only thing I didn't like about the ebay exhaust was fitment. It fit like crap. It said it would work for a IX and I had numerous issues with it creating false knock due to the downpipe. I did sale that exhaust and I now have a tanabe downpipe, 3" testpipe and 3" magnaflow. Fits much better than the ebay, just waiting to return home for a tune!

 

the ams copy is a great intercooler. i use to have it on my evo and it worked great. but now i up graded to the ebay 24x12x4 intercooler.
i also have a ebay intercooler on my 500whp integra and i couldent be happyer

ams copy



heres my new super huge 24x12x4 $140 ebay intercooler

 

Those were all your choices, don't complain.

 

ams is better 100%. Ill tell you this, go to a exhaust shop and have them weld up exhaust, ill bet you anything ams will be better but barely noticable. its a turbo the straighter the piping the better. its not hard to figure out. If the welds are good on exhaust and the piping is strong enough you will see gains very similar just alot cheaper. Intercooler works, not as well as AMS but it works. knowing the intercooler is better ill still buy the cheaper one. If i had the money id buy ams, to me i would save the money and put it towards quality things, like turbos, cams, tunes, boost controllers, and intake.

 

Things you need to buy name brand and must be of quality :

Turbos( should be garret, precision or turbonetics), turbo kits, turbo manifolds, cams and any internal engine parts.

Things you dont need to buy name brand:
intercoolers, anything pipe related such as intakes, exhaust, intercooler piping.

 

i agree the ebay exhaust is decent but i wouldnt run the intercooler or anything else for that matter.

intercoolers are more complicated than you think yea they just flow air.

Would you run an ebay radiator on your car? same concept.