Im sure htis has been posted but i cant find anything. I am looking for a really good or best intercooler out there for over 450 whp any help thanks. money not a problem

 

I will have my Nisei for sale here soon....

http://www.nisei-evo.com/products/intercooler.html

Paid $990.00 for it...

Absolutely awesome intercooler!!!!

~Zach

 

Nisei has a sale going on now. Their competition intercooler and complete IC piping for $1,085 shipped. Great deal!
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ighlight=nisei

 

ETS 3.5" never look back!

 

ETS intercoolers are the best in the market and their customer service is second to none...... ETS FTW .

 

Nisei has proven their performance, not only that DB (a respected competitor) has even tested the old Nisei "Street" core against their BR "Race" core and the results were a wash. Nisei Engineering's NEW "Competition" FMIC is suppose to be even BETTER than their old design. Having LESS pressure drop and keeping outlet temps STABLE as well.

Here is a couple of things for you, if they were the BEST... 1) How come you can't find any data logs of temps & pressures outlet readings for the any of ETS cores? compared to stock or other cores? 2) Why does ETS make so many models??? If their design (fin configuration, density, etc.) of their cores were done properly then shouldn't it cover a greater range of upgrades? OR are they saying that each core is going to have bettter throttle response than the other? Such as the 3" is going to spool "X" rpm faster than the 3.5" and the 3.5" is going to spool "X" faster than the 4" and so on and so forth. OR is it a claim/sale that max hp= FMIC size restrictions.

If anyone says the hp = size restrictions of your FMIC then you've got it wrong! Simply because there is more than one way to make HP. If you think I'm wrong then answer this... If there were 2 cars making 400whp running 2 completely different set ups... car "A" running a stock turbo & car "B" running a 35R kit. Who needs the better intercooler?

Answer: Car "A" because in order to create the flow needed to produce 400whp on a stock turbo. The stock turbo needs to spin much faster (than a 35R)AND will generate more heat which needs to be exchanged.

 

for sure

 

Man this arguement will never die lol
They both make great intercoolers the ETS i feel has a much better price. I know from our experience on pushing all the way from 700whp to over 1009whp the ETS intercoolers have held up great at the trackOn the dyno we saw 10 deg rise in temps at the most and at the track on our 157.5mph run we went up 20deg in temps and thats with a 4wheel burnout,anti-lag and than the 1/4mile run
Ive ran the 4" and 5" ETS models so far. Now tell me does Nisei have any real track #s and dyno #s on evo8s and 9s?
Lucas English ran on the ETS 3" intercooler and stock 04 turbo 124mph and 11.2

 

I have an ETS 3.5" on my evo. Looks and performs great. Don't think I should ever have to upgrade.

jason

 

And dont forget to blow some water on it!!!

 

If price is all that matters then whats wrong with the ebay fmic?

I think that was the point when nisei proved running a fmic whp test on the dyno wasn't accurate for temperature changes and pressure loss more than the one gear.

http://www.nisei-evo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25
http://www.niseiengineering.com/images/1st5thNisei.pdf

first, I don't think everyone can afford to run a 4" & 5" fmic. second, are you saying the size of the intercooler has a direct relation to how fast you will go?

Here is the thing, back in the day evom was very technical and there is ALOT OF GOOD INFORMATION OUT THERE! & VERY SMART PPL too. you just have to search a bit to find it. I understand you're sponsored and want to help your friends out as much as possible but, I think we all would appreciate information that backs up your claims. Not just generalzation about the performance of a product based on your personal achievements. Factual documentation would be greatly appreciated. Atleast that is where I stand.

There is a another vendor on this site who pushes power gains and whp #'s as well but, you still hear about the workmanship, business practice, and quality of his product from time to time.

Lastly, if power #'s and time slip's are a measure of the best product out there. Then shouldn't we all be buying AMS? They seem to not only set records for many different categories of racing (Drag & Time Attack) but, maintain them as well.

 

Being condescending and a ***** will get you know where. I will pst up aem logs on our testing at the drag strip. Yes not everyone drag races but this is the data i have of the ETS products i run. I'm just saying as well as everyone here running ETS intercoolers have worked for our applications without breaking the bank. I will call JR at ETS to give you more of the feedback you are looking for as he is the one who builds the intercoolers

 

Actually technical data on a FMIC would have nothing to do with spool times. In essence they are just a heat exchanger. Any HVAC engineer will tell you the purpose is a coil is to transfer heat away from or into something at a given pressure loss. If you saw technical data without an engineering degree or some knowledge of the field it wouldn't help you anyway. Since ambient air is what's used to cool the charge air, a Delta T rating vs. pressure drop would be what you'd be reading about.

 

wow.....this tuned into a battle..... I will say again ETS make one hell of a IC and the craftsmenship of the IC and any of their products are excellent and proven on the track.

 

yezir!!