I want to run a antilag setup on my evo 9, what do I need?
The first one he described will create a loud backfire.
You need to understand that Anti-Lag does not create large amounts of boost by itself. Your motor has to have already been making boost for the anti-lag to uphold the boost. If you want boost off the line with an anti-lag system you need to rev your motor.
What is the point of not wanting to rev your motor? You will be making twice as much noise with anti-lag.
Also- you put down no lift shifting because you think it damages your drivetrain. What do you think happens when you shift with anti-lag and you get 20lbs of boost instantly? Better yet - what happens when you don't rev match as well as you would have by no lift shifting? Doesn't that cause drivetrain stress?
You need to understand that Anti-Lag does not create large amounts of boost by itself. Your motor has to have already been making boost for the anti-lag to uphold the boost. If you want boost off the line with an anti-lag system you need to rev your motor.
What is the point of not wanting to rev your motor? You will be making twice as much noise with anti-lag.
Also- you put down no lift shifting because you think it damages your drivetrain. What do you think happens when you shift with anti-lag and you get 20lbs of boost instantly? Better yet - what happens when you don't rev match as well as you would have by no lift shifting? Doesn't that cause drivetrain stress?
The whole purpose of anti-lag system is when you are racing in WRC, it is little different than on track. It is not always brake, brake, turn your handle, accelerate, accelerate. There are so many moments where your revs go below the boost range due to the condition of particular section of the 'road' and yet you can't downshift since it'll spin the car out. Thats when the anti-lag kicks in and keeps the boost up so when you are back on gas, it'll shoot your engine back up into boost range, while making the 'pop pop' sound. From what I remember anti-lag has already been banned from WRC for awhile now.
2-step is more than enough for drag races and ALS is totally unecessary. After the initial launch, you're better off power shifting to keep the car in boost between shifts than let the ALS work for you for split second. Either way, you'll damage your car eventually.
It sounds like you are looking for ALS purely for show, 'impressing' people you know and 'intimidate' people in cute street drag races you run. As long as you have money, anything is possible though, just goto a tunershop, get autronic or motec standalone, custom manifold and be ready to replace your exhaust and turbo often.
2-step is more than enough for drag races and ALS is totally unecessary. After the initial launch, you're better off power shifting to keep the car in boost between shifts than let the ALS work for you for split second. Either way, you'll damage your car eventually.
It sounds like you are looking for ALS purely for show, 'impressing' people you know and 'intimidate' people in cute street drag races you run. As long as you have money, anything is possible though, just goto a tunershop, get autronic or motec standalone, custom manifold and be ready to replace your exhaust and turbo often.
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The first one he described will create a loud backfire.
You need to understand that Anti-Lag does not create large amounts of boost by itself. Your motor has to have already been making boost for the anti-lag to uphold the boost. If you want boost off the line with an anti-lag system you need to rev your motor.
What is the point of not wanting to rev your motor? You will be making twice as much noise with anti-lag.
Also- you put down no lift shifting because you think it damages your drivetrain. What do you think happens when you shift with anti-lag and you get 20lbs of boost instantly? Better yet - what happens when you don't rev match as well as you would have by no lift shifting? Doesn't that cause drivetrain stress?
You need to understand that Anti-Lag does not create large amounts of boost by itself. Your motor has to have already been making boost for the anti-lag to uphold the boost. If you want boost off the line with an anti-lag system you need to rev your motor.
What is the point of not wanting to rev your motor? You will be making twice as much noise with anti-lag.
Also- you put down no lift shifting because you think it damages your drivetrain. What do you think happens when you shift with anti-lag and you get 20lbs of boost instantly? Better yet - what happens when you don't rev match as well as you would have by no lift shifting? Doesn't that cause drivetrain stress?
Read the thread and you find the answers to all your dumb questions.
Antilag doesnt do what you think it does, its not what you want, and part of what makes turbo cars fun is the lag and sudden surge of torque. Instant spool like you describe can be somewhat accomplished by nitrous, but even then you need to be aware that its not instant boost. Instant torque just doesnt happen with turbo cars off idle.
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The whole purpose of anti-lag system is when you are racing in WRC, it is little different than on track. It is not always brake, brake, turn your handle, accelerate, accelerate. There are so many moments where your revs go below the boost range due to the condition of particular section of the 'road' and yet you can't downshift since it'll spin the car out. Thats when the anti-lag kicks in and keeps the boost up so when you are back on gas, it'll shoot your engine back up into boost range, while making the 'pop pop' sound. From what I remember anti-lag has already been banned from WRC for awhile now.
2-step is more than enough for drag races and ALS is totally unecessary. After the initial launch, you're better off power shifting to keep the car in boost between shifts than let the ALS work for you for split second. Either way, you'll damage your car eventually.
It sounds like you are looking for ALS purely for show, 'impressing' people you know and 'intimidate' people in cute street drag races you run. As long as you have money, anything is possible though, just goto a tunershop, get autronic or motec standalone, custom manifold and be ready to replace your exhaust and turbo often.
2-step is more than enough for drag races and ALS is totally unecessary. After the initial launch, you're better off power shifting to keep the car in boost between shifts than let the ALS work for you for split second. Either way, you'll damage your car eventually.
It sounds like you are looking for ALS purely for show, 'impressing' people you know and 'intimidate' people in cute street drag races you run. As long as you have money, anything is possible though, just goto a tunershop, get autronic or motec standalone, custom manifold and be ready to replace your exhaust and turbo often.
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Antilag doesnt do what you think it does, its not what you want, and part of what makes turbo cars fun is the lag and sudden surge of torque. Instant spool like you describe can be somewhat accomplished by nitrous, but even then you need to be aware that its not instant boost. Instant torque just doesnt happen with turbo cars off idle.
Have you ever ridden in a car with antilag? Have you ever attended a Rally or a Pro turbo drag race event? Antilag does exactly what its called but only between shifts or launching. You dont press the pedal and it somehow magically makes the car spool. I have personally had a WRX equipped with antilag from an Autronic SM2. I am very sure I know A LOT more about antilag than you think you do.
Since you know more than everyone on this board why have you asked this question? Believe it or not I was trying to help get what you did want, but from the sound of it you need a Mustang or something that has no lag.
Since you know more than everyone on this board why have you asked this question? Believe it or not I was trying to help get what you did want, but from the sound of it you need a Mustang or something that has no lag.
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Have you ever ridden in a car with antilag? Have you ever attended a Rally or a Pro turbo drag race event? Antilag does exactly what its called but only between shifts or launching. You dont press the pedal and it somehow magically makes the car spool. I have personally had a WRX equipped with antilag from an Autronic SM2. I am very sure I know A LOT more about antilag than you think you do.
Since you know more than everyone on this board why have you asked this question? Believe it or not I was trying to help get what you did want, but from the sound of it you need a Mustang or something that has no lag.
Since you know more than everyone on this board why have you asked this question? Believe it or not I was trying to help get what you did want, but from the sound of it you need a Mustang or something that has no lag.

P.S. On your slowbaru that you had if you steped on the accelerater and the boost was not their you did not have als. You dont kno as much as you think about antilag I can tell by reading your post.
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seriously though; how can you make boost standing still without stepping on the gas pedal to raise rpms, and then hit a "2-step" limiter to hold the boost? anti-lag is to not lose boost between shifts when moving, and a 2-step is for building boost on a launch (with stepping on the gas prior to launch). i don't think anyone knows what you want? you cant build boost without an rpm increase....
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seriously though; how can you make boost standing still without stepping on the gas pedal to raise rpms, and then hit a "2-step" limiter to hold the boost? anti-lag is to not lose boost between shifts when moving, and a 2-step is for building boost on a launch (with stepping on the gas prior to launch). i don't think anyone knows what you want? you cant build boost without an rpm increase....
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john bradley points have a ton of merit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Lag_System
http://www.autronic.com/technical_da...es/antilag.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Lag_System
http://www.autronic.com/technical_da...es/antilag.pdf
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john bradley points have a ton of merit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Lag_System
http://www.autronic.com/technical_da...es/antilag.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Lag_System
http://www.autronic.com/technical_da...es/antilag.pdf







