What were your mods? Also you did it. What is so special about you that you claim not many people can do it? That is a great 60' but you need to work on your shifts. You should have hit a much lower time. Is that the green or stock 05 turbo? No stock 05 turbo is hitting 117 on pump with that 60'.

 

need to work on that shifting..... with that 60' you should have ran 11.3-11.4

 

First you are in the evo 9 we all know it has several advantages compaired to the evo 8. Second you are not a common item running those times if they are what you say they are, common for the evo 9 maybe but not the 8. If you say that your car has another 30-40whp in it now I think you would be one of the highest hp stock evos around being 470-480 hp. That doesn't add up or I can't add at all maybe thats just me. Next you saying I just installed a BR3065 and it spools at 4200 so the ATP is basically crap well you are trying to compair probably a build head/motor/ several other advantages so you are not offering a fair compairison. Still post a log that shows 22+ psi by 4200 on flat ground in 3rd gear so as you say maybe you should show proof to add to this thread to help with the decision.

I am not trying to degrade anyone about their times but why should others be allowed to say their setup is **** just becuase you happened to get lucky or you happen to already have the EVO 9. I don't see many 8 turbos running into the 11's with very few parts unless they are just a really good driver, run race fuel and a agressive tune.

 

I never did track the car on the stock turbo with 93 octane, just g-tech times for reference, 12.1-12.2's were common, nothing that great.

the 11.78 was with a 20g, hks 280, fmic, exhaust, 93 octane. I felt like the 20g on pump was pretty much tapped out for my car so its time to move on to something with much more potential.

p.s. those runs were done on absolutely bald street tires for the hell of it. My friend talked me into going and I was surprised I could get down to the 1.6x at all really. I just ordered some tires yesterday in preparation of the 35R boiling the bald ones right off.

 

If you look at the original posters mod list you will see he is ready to run 11s but only needs the 10.5 hotside or EVO9 turbo to do so. For $500 he could be running mid 11s.

I don't think he should upgrade to an expensive bigger laggier turbo until he exploits the power of the 16G. Going from the 9.8 to the 10.5 provides big top end gains. On those cams he could easily pick up 50hp going from the 9.8 to the EVO9 rig. Even if he wanted more he would be out no money as the resale of used turbos are wonderful. Even if he buys it new for $600 he won't lose more than $100 when selling it.

More performance and no lag without the need to run connecting rod bolt killing RPMs. He won't even need injectors.

My 2003 EVO8 with 272s and bolt ons was a mid 11 car and it had more in it.

 

I don't know..maybe, I thought my shifting was good, not great. I could have power shifted it but I prefer not to abuse the transmission...it's my daily driver and I'm not into tearing it up over a few tenths.

I wasn't out to set any records, just having some fun.

 

If you could pick up 50whp by going with the evo9 turbo I would agree that might be the answer to his query as a resale loss would be minimal as well.

 

I am making around 370awhp on a stock IX turbo and pump. Yes I am one of the higher ones with such little mods and I know that the IX's to have some advantages but if you give an 8 larger cams and a IX turbo then the IX has no longer has the advantage. The car with the 3065 has drop in rods and pistons. This isn't a stroker motor. The head porting was not major. I did a mild port and polish. It also has a built head but so does the other guy. The ATP kit is restrictive. The point behind it is that it fits up to the stock manifold which in my opinion is restrictive for a larger turbo even ported. Add up porting for the stock manifold and porting for the back housing for the atp kit in order to make it flow half decent and the cost for all that comes out the same as a buschur log manifold kit.

 

This is just that point. He will spend $500 on a IX turbo and run 11's or he can spend $2600 on an atp kit basically hit the same numbers and have less usable hp.

 

Powershifing isnt the difference... you jsut need to move ur hands and legs faster


thats the easy part is shifting.... launching is harder because there are so many variables.... shifting is exactly the same everytime you do it

 

I'll admit my 1-2 isn't that great because I have a tendency to miss it when I get in a hurry, so I don't move as fast as I could to make sure I hit it, my 2-3 an 3-4 are quick. I really don't think there would be much room for improvement, certainly not more than 1-2 tenth. I'm not the best driver but I feel like better than the majority by far.

 

You are decent driver. I find myself very fast too but some other people are faster. The point is it made 11's. Only takes 350-380awhp to do it. Depending on driving skill.

 

I had an ATP turbo on my car for 500 miles. I did not have that many mods on the car at the time and made respectful 400 hp. i need to get rid of it though its just been chilling in my garage for the past year now.

 

All these numbers about whp to hit 11s is just another way to dyno race. If you want to talk whp numbers to run 11s...a guy out here in Cali on crappy 91 with a IX RS ran 11.97 w/ only 292whp. So I think it's funny that he ran that with 50+whp less than you are claiming.

On another note...just because you can cut 1.65 60' times doesn't qualify you for 11.3 or 11.4 sec runs. This same guy was cutting 1.6x 60' and running the 11.97. He is admittedly one of the best drivers I've seen, but there is no way that car would have pulled low 11s on his pump gas tune. And his race gas tune made 355whp and 11.5 times.

So comparing dyno numbers with 1/4 mile times is pretty much useless...that is until you compare the same car, on the same dyno, with different turbos, kits, parts and then the same driver goes to the drag strip and you compare the before and after. Then you will know how much that particular setup helped that particular car/driver!! My .02!!

 

50hp just going to an evo9 is a little bit more than you should expect. I have read 25-30whp. Which im making around 330-335 now.. so thats around 355-360whp. With licp, o2 housing etc, I might be able to get 370ish out of it...maybe 4WS could work his magic and get me there. But, bottom line, im wanting around 425whp, preferably on pump gas, but if meth w/stock turbo is a cheaper route, sure ill consider it. All im wanting is mid to high 11s at this time.