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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 10:04 PM
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Paul I think its time you test some carrillo rods too.....

PS: Did you ever talk to your mustang guy about the TT setup?
I have not but i will give him a call


Yeah the bearings look awesome out of my drag car
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Here are the pics of Pauls bearings from the 1014whp, 20 passes and 30+ dyno pulls.



This was the 1009 whp, 20 dyno pulls and 7 passes on the steal Oliver rods.



OMG, there are holes in the bearings!!! looks like they wore right through. those bearings gotta go!!!








































































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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 04:43 AM
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HA HA HA HA HA....good one
Old Jan 4, 2008 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucas English
Here are the pics of Pauls bearings from the 1014whp, 20 passes and 30+ dyno pulls.




HOLD ON... That explains It.. 8 bearings?? So paul was running an 8cyl. to make all that power!!!
Old Jan 4, 2008 | 05:17 AM
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The question is what bearings were you using on the Oliver rods as it was made quite clear that you MUST us the 1G bearings on the Groden rods.
Also,did you use OE Mitsu 1G bearings on the Grodens?
Old Jan 4, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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They both use 1g bearings and I have allways used Clevite 77 bearings.
Old Jan 5, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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a lil off topic, but y u guys usin the clevite bearings, and not some of the others? acl maybe?
Old Jan 5, 2008 | 10:09 AM
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I have a good source on them and they have never done us wrong I feel.
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What brand and weight oil do you use?
Old Jan 5, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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What brand and weight oil do you use?
AMZOIL 20-50wt
Old Jan 5, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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AMZOIL 20-50wt
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucas English
Here are the pics of Pauls bearings from the 1014whp, 20 passes and 30+ dyno pulls.



This was the 1009 whp, 20 dyno pulls and 7 passes on the steal Oliver rods.

Idea from a friend of mine:


The aluminum rod acts as a shock absorber for detonation and since it absorbs it, there is less abuse put on the bearing whereas with the steel rod the bearing take more abuse.





I just had an argument with a friend of mine because I said that the aluminum rod was just easier on the bearing where he says it doesnt matter if you go with steel or aluminum when it comes to weight in rotating mass. He put together a 300whp+ k series motor revving to 12k and it uses rods that are 100 grams heavier then stock. He claims that that the bearings look perfect.





I would like some input on that
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Steve, I have run quite a few different rod brands. I don't think there is any secret to keeping an engine by using aluminum. My RS just finished up two years with Crowers and the bearings were perfect. Our black drag car ran the first 8.95 at 165 mph with Crowers in it, bearings were perfect in it too.
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Steve, I have run quite a few different rod brands. I don't think there is any secret to keeping an engine by using aluminum. My RS just finished up two years with Crowers and the bearings were perfect. Our black drag car ran the first 8.95 at 165 mph with Crowers in it, bearings were perfect in it too.

David the bearings on your Badish car are much more beat up than the drag car. Correct me if im wrong or looking at the pics but the steel rods look like they beat the bearings up much harder





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Idea from a friend of mine:


The aluminum rod acts as a shock absorber for detonation and since it absorbs it, there is less abuse put on the bearing whereas with the steel rod the bearing take more abuse.





I just had an argument with a friend of mine because I said that the aluminum rod was just easier on the bearing where he says it doesnt matter if you go with steel or aluminum when it comes to weight in rotating mass. He put together a 300whp+ k series motor revving to 12k and it uses rods that are 100 grams heavier then stock. He claims that that the bearings look perfect.





I would like some input on that

Steve bought my turbo kit and is setting up for drag racing. If he was a 600whp daily driver i would say go for the crowers but he is shooting for 1000whp



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