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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 03:22 PM
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^ But that is all 1/4 mile mumbo jumbo. If its 1/4 action or highway pull action you seek then go big or spray the world at it (nitrous). I'm betting you could see 10s from a nearly stock 9 with a 100 shot.

Before people upgrade they need to put a value on the things that the 9 and Mivec brought to the table. Quick spool, near instant partial throttle boost transition, and a healthy hard hitting punch of torque. The green may spool nearly the same when the pedal is mashed to the floor at 2500 rpm on a dyno but daily driven it definately feels different at partial throttle. Is the topend gain worth it? Thats for you to decide.

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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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Jeff_jeske, If you're ever in Oklahoma, I will let you drive OKIX's car, then tell me that you feel the difference in spool. It CAN be made non existent. The dyno AND street logs prove that peak torque occurs at or before 3800 rpms. I think you'll find that the stocker is nearly exactly the same. With 101 and meth, a stocker's spool is NOT quicker. These discussions are why I very well documented the car and what it does and doesn't do. Logs and charts prove these points.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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meth with a 20g or even a IX stocker will give you some massive tq. at least you will feel it......................i rather see down low tw and power then up top. depends on what someone wants is based on what they are gonna buy.

once i max out my 20G i think i will go as far as 30R or something. dont know yet but still gotta feel out my 20G and meth im gettin here soon. I set my fuel mods up already in preparation for the meth. should be around 400 or so as far as Hp and hoping for a 400 or so tq.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 9sec9
Oh, by the way, the 10.93 was at 128 mph with LESS horsepower (supposedly) than the 122mph you post about. It proves my point of whp numbers are meaningless.
I would love to go to the track that you guys have. LOL. So the built motor, ported head and jun cams yielded you an extra tenth. With my wallet that would make me cry. Still the numbers are impressive. Now if you hit 10.3 I will bow down to you.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 04:12 PM
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haha wow so 4k worth of mods ended up being about 1.5k now. thanks for saving me money guys! i guess now i'll be getting the Snow Performance Meth Kit and the ACT Street Disc Clutch Kit w/ Flywheel (unless you guys can recommend me a good/affordable clutch for a daily driver that can handle a few launches at the strip). i'm gonna find out around how much whp my car is making once Mellon sends me the graph. with the mods i have now plus the addition of the meth kit and increasing the boost, what else would i need to get into the 400's?

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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RevMoto
A IX turbo can make 450whp. It is not worth it to switch to a green. Period.

right - wait, I know, let's take the highest EVER stock turbo + meth dyno numbers (then add 15whp to that for whatever reason), so we can feel good about the fact that we are making average Green + meth dyno numbers...


why are you hating on the Green soooo much? Chances are good you're still rockin' the 16g...
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RevMoto
I would love to go to the track that you guys have. LOL. So the built motor, ported head and jun cams yielded you an extra tenth. With my wallet that would make me cry. Still the numbers are impressive. Now if you hit 10.3 I will bow down to you.
As most who followed the cam swapping/tuning thread know, the built motor, ported head and JUN cams yielded 60whp more at 8000 rpms. That setup hasn't been tested at the track yet. the 10.87 was run with 425 whp, prior to the build. The 10.93 was run before that at one of the worst traction tracks in the Southwest with 403whp. It's the NEW Buschur 2.0 that makes 513wtq/445whp that hasn't been run at the track yet. Just for clarification. It's this new engine that WILL take the car to sub 10.5's. Guaranteed.


First time out with new setup: 10.61 and 130.49mph, with AFR's .5 richer than dyno session. More to come.

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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Since some of u said that it's not worth it to upgrade from the IX turbo to a Green, is it worthy to upgrade from VIII turbo to a Green then? or go bigger like 30r and up instead?
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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The 30R, like full-races will make more power. Depends on your goals. If you drag race, what is your goal. If you don't and want to keep reasonably close to stock response, the Green would probably be the largest currently available turbo. A Twin-scroll 30R is in the test stages, so check the thread on that if you're looking for a potential of 550 whp, but at the expense of probably a 400-500 rpm's of spool time.
A well built stock turbo with top tune or one of the mentioned turbos is not going to dissapoint you.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mudduck
right - wait, I know, let's take the highest EVER stock turbo + meth dyno numbers (then add 15whp to that for whatever reason), so we can feel good about the fact that we are making average Green + meth dyno numbers...


why are you hating on the Green soooo much? Chances are good you're still rockin' the 16g...
Rocking the stock IX turbo and making 372whp on pump only. Meth is next. Yes I am pretty sure I can make 450whp.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Check out the fidanza kevlar carbon clutch bboy. I think I'm going with that one when the stock clutch wears out. Bro you're gonna have the most modded car out of all of us at the meets! I'm a little jealous. Hook me up with a good deal on a pc dude, I'll come to the store.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by c_sautter
Check out the fidanza kevlar carbon clutch bboy. I think I'm going with that one when the stock clutch wears out. Bro you're gonna have the most modded car out of all of us at the meets! I'm a little jealous. Hook me up with a good deal on a pc dude, I'll come to the store.
haha i can't help it man! i haven't done any performance mods in a couple months and i still have the urge to add more! i'm gonna get a-pillar gauges, an orbital double din kit, and a Kenwood double din monitor before i get the meth kit and clutch. lemme know what you're looking for and i'll see what we got. i wont be back to work until next week though because of the surgery.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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should i run 100% meth or use the snow performance boost juice? i'm guessing 100% meth would give me better results.
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 11:21 PM
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What's with the surgery man? I hope that it's minor. Best of luck!
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Old Jan 9, 2008 | 11:37 PM
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it was just an appendectomy, but there were some complications afterwards and they kept me in the hospital for 5 days and did so many tests. they put nuclear stuff in my blood to see if i had any bleeding in my stomach, they stuck an NG Tube into my nose, which then went down my throat and into my stomachand kept it there for an hour and performed a colonoscopy at the same time. i was fully conscious when the stuck the tube in my nose, but im glad they heavily sedated me when they did the colonoscopy. i'm only 19 and it wasn't fun at all.
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